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Old 02-11-2018, 08:11 AM
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Default Blood Guard trains themselves, blames innocent bystander! :D

I wasn't going to do this, BUUUUUUUT......after nearly 9 years of playing on P99, I have my first (and hopefully last) RnF-worthy post...

Remember when Blood Guard trained themselves, blamed a random person from Aftermath, and made themselves look stupid?

On 1/31/2018 @ approximately 10:20pm PST, I logged onto my rogue who was camped near King Tormax's room in Kael. Bored, and with no objective in mind, I decided to sneak around the zone to see what was going on. After typing /who, I thought there might be some people in the arena, so I decided to sneak over and say hi..... and chaos ensued!

As I approached the top of the ramp on right-side-arena, I saw a group of players killing mobs in the distance (at left-side-arena). As I passed the door with the protectors of zek, I saw a wolf pet running toward kallis/vindi area. I continued approaching the group of players, all from the guild "Blood Guard" (Studiogangsta, Slyces, Shamanntha, Meathook, Reetah, Serendib, Dixee, Shraxx, Shmak)

Once I got close to them, I immediately got spammed with accusations that I was training mobs to their camp, which is odd because I was still sneaking/hiding and it was obvious to me that I never got aggro on anything at any point throughout the encounter. A few seconds later, everyone in their group died, I was still standing there on top of their corpses with sneak/hide still active, as I proceeded to defend myself from wrongful accusations.

After reviewing my logs and this screenshot below, it quickly became apparent that Shamanntha's wolf pet had been feared by an adjutant, thereby aggroing a bunch of mobs (see my notes in yellow, also ignore the random conversation with shinko lol!)

https://imgur.com/a/Y9XrA


I initially asked shraxx what happened with the pet because he was the only shaman corpse that I could see....but it turns out he was not the culprit. In fact, Shamanntha was the culprit and had managed to gate out before everyone else died. I wasn't able to question Shamanntha directly, since he had mysteriously logged off after the wipe:

[Wed Jan 31 22:30:06 2018] You told shraxx, 'was that your wolf pet that trained your guild? or was there another shaman there? lol'
[Wed Jan 31 22:30:31 2018] Shraxx tells you, 'my pet was at our camp fighting'
[Wed Jan 31 22:30:43 2018] Shraxx tells you, 'we did have another shaman as well '
[Wed Jan 31 22:31:12 2018] You told Shraxx, 'ah ok might wanna ask him about the wolf pet that went running toward vindi temple area'

[Wed Jan 31 22:36:48 2018] shamanntha is not online at this time.

~ 20 minutes later, in WL, we have this nice encounter with Slyces as they attempt a corpse retrieval operation:

[Wed Jan 31 22:53:26 2018] Slyces says out of character, 'can anyone sow at kael?'
[Wed Jan 31 22:54:01 2018] You say out of character, 'wheres shamanntha? '
[Wed Jan 31 22:54:22 2018] Slyces smacks Dripping.
[Wed Jan 31 22:54:27 2018] You roll on the floor laughing.
[Wed Jan 31 22:55:43 2018] You roll on the floor laughing at Slyces.
[Wed Jan 31 22:56:04 2018] Slyces says, 'go be a douche to someone else dripping, you tool'
[Wed Jan 31 22:56:08 2018] You say, 'lmao'
[Wed Jan 31 22:56:09 2018] You say, 'so pathetic'
[Wed Jan 31 22:56:15 2018] You told slyces '[queued], this is gonna be a great rnf post'

[Wed Jan 31 22:57:05 2018] Slyces tells you, '/shug.. i dont care.. like i said...a tool'
[Wed Jan 31 22:57:50 2018] You told Slyces, 'surely you must be able to appreciate the irony of the fact that you accuse me of something i obviously didnt do, and when it turns out that you're wrong you still cant admit it'
[Wed Jan 31 22:59:17 2018] Slyces tells you, 'whether you did it or not.. a train shows up... and BOOOM , there pops a AM... the irony there is way more amusing'
[Wed Jan 31 22:59:43 2018] You told Slyces, 'great logic lmao'
[Wed Jan 31 23:00:04 2018] Slyces tells you, 'am and trains go together. like hot wings and beer'
[Wed Jan 31 23:00:24 2018] You told Slyces, 'but see the fact is, i didn't train you'
[Wed Jan 31 23:00:52 2018] Slyces tells you, 'like i said, it doesnt matter if you did or not'
[Wed Jan 31 23:00:56 2018] You told Slyces, 'sure it does'
[Wed Jan 31 23:01:03 2018] Slyces tells you, 'just shut the fuck up'

[Wed Jan 31 23:01:50 2018] You say out of character, 'wheres my apology BG?'
[Wed Jan 31 23:02:05 2018] You say out of character, 'jk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]'


[Wed Jan 31 23:03:10 2018] You told Slyces, 'at least meathook had the decency to apologize . a fellow rogue able to acknowledge the true game mechanics. you know the part where i was sneaking and hiding the whole time and never got aggro'
[Wed Jan 31 23:03:57 2018] Slyces tells you, 'just call it even for the am bard that trained me yesterday and didnt apologize'
[Wed Jan 31 23:04:59 2018] You told Slyces, 'thats a fallacious statement. i dont even know what you're talking about since i wasnt there. you probably dont even have proof of that'
[Wed Jan 31 23:05:31 2018] Slyces tells you, 'i dont fraps, so no i dont, but it did happen, ask nolar or grimmskld'
[Wed Jan 31 23:07:09 2018] You told Slyces, 'admit it, you got trained by your own noob shaman. the fact that you so quickly jump on someone else shows that you are willfully ignorant of your own guild's shortcomings'
[Wed Jan 31 23:09:03 2018] Slyces tells you, 'i dont know. no one saw it'
[Wed Jan 31 23:09:15 2018] Slyces tells you, 'just you showed up and bam,, theres a train'
[Wed Jan 31 23:09:17 2018] Slyces tells you, 'classic am'
[Wed Jan 31 23:09:42 2018] You told Slyces, 'nah just a classic misjudgement on your part'
[Wed Jan 31 23:10:25 2018] Slyces tells you, 'na, ive been trained by am enough to know your guilty by association'
[Wed Jan 31 23:10:29 2018] You told Slyces, 'you may not have seen the shaman pet run toward vindi, but the proof is in the pudding. i survived and watched all you die without ever having aggro'


In closing, I was extremely impressed by Meathook's apology after realizing I was not at fault. However, to this day, Shamanntha has shown no culpability, nor has anyone else apologized.


Questions/comments are appreciated!
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:22 AM
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:34 AM
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My favorite part was when you risked getting your raid rogue band to train some small group of noobs in Kael for no apparent gain.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:39 AM
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:40 AM
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What does this all prove? BG trained themselves and blamed someone else, then once the facts were presented, some members STILL couldn’t let it go?

And then you wasted what I assume was at least an hour if not more going back and forth with them to ensure you had enough content for a RnF post? And then you wasted even more time putting all your information together?

And then you post it at the crack ass of dawn on a Sunday knowing damn well a lot of the top forum questers can’t work on the sabbath??!
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:01 AM
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Reader's Digest version;

"am and trains go together. like hot wings and beer"
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:30 AM
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Well done I appreciate the detail you put into creating this post. Meathook is a quality guy, didn't go psycho, and when he thought over the facts agreed you did not create the train. Nice on his part!

I just didn't like the beginning part when you mentioned you would have a nice post for RnF, it seems like you were waiting for a moment to catch some dumbasses just to blast them here. Can't say they don't deserve it, but a little subtlety goes a long way imo.

I wasn't really in the mood to read this type of post, but seeing you mentioned to ignore the random tells to Shinko I felt a curiosity to see what kind of silliness he wrote since he can be fairly entertaining sometimes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think all of BG are idiots, but some these dudes definitely seem like jerks. Shamanntha needs to come clean and admit fault. Not only did they gate out to avoid death proving they knew they created a train, they then happened to also go LD. Sad!
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:54 AM
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If I could gate I’d have a macro

/g not my fault
/cast gate
Pause 20 seconds
/q

(I know those prob aren’t right commands)
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:22 AM
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I don't think all of BG are idiots
Anybody in BG can tell you this is simply not true.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:59 AM
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Anybody in BG can tell you this is simply not true.
Well. I stand corrected!

Duly noted, Plush. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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