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Old 04-20-2021, 11:21 PM
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Sounds disgusting I’m super ill because of this thread.

Need before greed, random on stuff that everyone needs. Cool down period for ransoms after you win mega elite stuff.

Everyone will show up because they have a chance to get something. Only one alt allowed and only once you’ve got one toon totally jacked up and no one wants you to stop showing up with your roided out psycho toon.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:25 PM
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Random is perfectly fair. Everyone who shows up gets a chance. If you are unreliable and consistently only show up to raids that could generate items you want, you get removed from the guild. Fair n square.

Maybe there were too many people skipping raids that didn’t have items they wanted? Figure something out or make a real guild where people give a shit.

The toxic on the server is from RMT like the other posters thread it’s impossible that people are pharming the way the do for any reason besides paying bills.
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Old 04-21-2021, 03:49 AM
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He’s not wrong. I mean think of the only reason you’re really mad for losing a dragon. It’s because you invest 4 hours of your life into that one thing and now you get nothing. That’s also why people don’t change guilds ever, it takes a year in whatever mega guilds there are now to get a vindi bp so why change guilds and start that process over?
In vanq you could earn enough dkp for a vindi bp in 1-2 days.
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Old 04-21-2021, 04:15 AM
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Old 04-21-2021, 07:19 AM
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Random is perfectly fair. Everyone who shows up gets a chance. If you are unreliable and consistently only show up to raids that could generate items you want, you get removed from the guild. Fair n square.

Maybe there were too many people skipping raids that didn’t have items they wanted? Figure something out or make a real guild where people give a shit.

The toxic on the server is from RMT like the other posters thread it’s impossible that people are pharming the way the do for any reason besides paying bills.

I don’t endorse rando Ming for loot. Not for guilds. Not even for groups. If you go on a loosing streak and never win anything? Feels bad. If you at least get a little plats from the drops you’ve seen? Feels good.


Random is worse than DKP. Immediately leads to all this weird “need before greed” and “you still better show up!” Shaming language.

Why? Because you want other people to show up for free (probably) so you can get something for almost nothing (hopefully).


Dkp at least accrues over time. And obviously Platnum. Value for value is good.


But its the feeling of sunk cost - enormous time wasted - that builds resentment when you see a competitor win.

They didn’t just beat you today. They devalued all the DKP you’ve saved.


Randoms and DKP both have significant anti social consequences. Plat sharing is the best of both worlds.
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:08 PM
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I don't understand the plat sharing but maybe that system is fine.

DKP obviously hopeless system pyramid scheme.
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:08 PM
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Sounds disgusting I’m super ill because of this thread.

Need before greed, random on stuff that everyone needs. Cool down period for ransoms after you win mega elite stuff.

Everyone will show up because they have a chance to get something. Only one alt allowed and only once you’ve got one toon totally jacked up and no one wants you to stop showing up with your roided out psycho toon.
random is by for the worst system imo. When I was in a guild that randomed everything people would roll on everything just because it was usable by all classes and races. Or would lose the only piece of loot at their level of raiding that I could even use to someone on their first raid who never showed back up.
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:44 PM
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"Feed the hole" scene from Romeo Is Bleeding (1993)
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:00 PM
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To ensure the maximum utility is extracted from our resources, a Loot Value Tax(LVT) must be implemented
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Old 04-21-2021, 03:41 PM
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On P99 there are "haves" and "have nots". The "haves" think everything is working great and the "have nots" think everything is toxic and make retarded RnF posts.

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You're a pretty smart guy, Spyder73.
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