Want to Start a Rogue and Just want to Make Sure I Understand a Couple Things

[AEH84]

I did not anticipate this level of debate when i made the thread lol

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by AEH84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not anticipate this level of debate when i made the thread lol

Welcome to berg99

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by AEH84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not anticipate this level of debate when i made the thread lol

Usually these starting stat threads will end up with a debate. If you care about stats, go STA, since caring about stats is thinking about the long game (getting to 60).

If you don't care about stats, it doesn't really matter what you put your points into, especially if you don't make it to 60.

100 HP or 30 STR is not going to be noticeable on a 20K twinked character in Velious. My Monk with 140 STR DPSes just fine, and you can get to 140 STR easily, even with a Gnome. There are a lot of cheap STR items out there by the time we get to Velious.

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to berg99

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[Crede]

Originally Posted by AEH84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not anticipate this level of debate when i made the thread lol

Oh this is nothing. Read this for a fact vs myth debate:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923

[Pint]

Originally Posted by AEH84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not anticipate this level of debate when i made the thread lol

You took a wrong turn at server selection then haha

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh this is nothing. Read this for a fact vs myth debate:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923

It is a good read if you want to see a thread where people were trolling with gifs for 100s of pages because they didn't understand the basic concept of how DPS parsing worked. They thought you couldn't mimic group DPS with a solo DPS parse, but that was proven wrong. I am glad people learned something, and some of the trolls in that thread learned that trolling isn't a very good method for trying to prove something.

This is off-topic though, please stop posting that thread in other threads, especially since it makes you look bad. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish lol.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Usually these starting stat threads will end up with a debate. If you care about stats, go STA, since caring about stats is thinking about the long game (getting to 60).

If you don't care about stats, it doesn't really matter what you put your points into, especially if you don't make it to 60.

100 HP or 30 STR is not going to be noticeable on a 20K twinked character in Velious. My Monk with 140 STR DPSes just fine, and you can get to 140 STR easily, even with a Gnome. There are a lot of cheap STR items out there by the time we get to Velious. Also there aren’t just groups of shamans on every raid either. It’s likely they will be buffing others and you’re on a waiting list. Why depend on that? Engages happen fast. You won’t always have time to get buffs. Better to take care of yourself first.



Toxigen doesn't like discussions to be had on a forum.

Don’t listen to any of this, OP.

If you actually care about stats and the difference they make then go STR. STA is literally a Magelo stat for rogues. If you’re gonna die, 20 extra sta isn’t going to save you 999999/1000000 times.

More str is a measurable benefit. More atk = more dps. It’s gonna take a long time to cap it without having to beg shamans 24/7 or staying capped with resist gear on a gnome especially who struggle with strength.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don’t listen to any of this, OP.

If you actually care about stats and the difference they make then go STR. STA is literally a Magelo stat for rogues. If you’re gonna die, 20 extra sta isn’t going to save you 999999/1000000 times.

More str is a measurable benefit. More atk = more dps. It’s gonna take a long time to cap it without having to beg shamans 24/7 or staying capped with resist gear on a gnome especially who struggle with strength.

The extra 30 STR isn't going to do much for you either 999999/1000000 times. We are not talking about a run with an untwinked Rogue. I agree with you STR is the better choice if you want to do a run with no starting gear/plat.

Otherwise, with twink gear you are going to DPS just fine with Velious weapons and a haste item. Put your points into STA so you are more effective at high levels, where those starting stats will matter.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh this is nothing. Read this for a fact vs myth debate:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923

lmao 10/10

Crede, I think you've become my favorite poster.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lmao 10/10

Crede, I think you've become my favorite poster.

I am really not sure why you think posting that thread makes you or Crede look good lol. But please stop posting off-topic stuff. It just makes you look even sillier.