A Message from Lineage to the Green Community

[Ashenden]

Sure there's video that what we're saying isn't true, and sure our guild leader has that video, and sure he left the UN before even seeing that video.

But what has Rome done for us lately?

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by Ashenden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure there's video that what we're saying isn't true, and sure our guild leader has that video, and sure he left the UN before even seeing that video.

But what has Rome done for us lately?

+1.

Here is the video.
It's all the evidence you'll ever need to see.

Also we're recruiting BTW, please visit the link below the video.

[Lothisu]

So what exaxtly happened in hate? I'm assuming Lineage was clearing to Inny when Seal Team ported in, trained the zone, got fte, tagged out and killed and now they are butt hurt?

[Danth]

For the benefit of those not active on Green, what is "UN" and how does it operate?

Danth

[Nuggie]

Lineage was a part of a union that got them some targets once in a while(not 7-day, but something). They were disrespected by ST on Inny. Their response is to leave the union in hopes of getting more targets.

Is that correct? How do you expect to train your raid force without the easy targets to practice on? How is a new player supposed to get comfortable without something to practice on?

Not only are you going to get less targets because of this, but you're going to get less recruits. More of your people will leave quicker. Your guild will shrink and die. This was a very poor decision if your goal was to build the guild and compete more. Sounds more like your leadership didn't want to/couldn't put up with all the overhead that being in the UN creates and is throwing in the towel.

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the benefit of those not active on Green, what is "UN" and how does it operate?

Danth

The UN allows for a rotation of "lesser" targets to the smaller guilds. Tranix, phinny, planar trash. I'm sure PoSky will join that list pretty quick after release(personally I think this needs to be outside the UN so when the UN fails PoSky-rotation isn't effected).

[Lothisu]

Does Lineage have players from Blue who have experienced the blue raid scene?

[fak]

Some lineage have, yes

[Keebz]

I personally don't think the UN is particularly good for smaller guilds. It severely limits the amount of loot available to your guild and shoehorns you into specific times. The bigger, stronger guilds already have their loot, and can secure larger/more time slots in the schedule. Meanwhile, night time slots aren't even getting cleared, while people awake during those hours don't contest, due to UN rules, further limiting loot available.

Nuggie mentioned something about "practicing" for competitive content, but the rotational content provides no competition and is not really the best way to learn how to FTE. Everyone just gets lulled into complacency of just showing up at some scheduled time, half-afking for DKP and maybe getting some planar.

I think the UN made a lot of sense when LR and Cryosilk was in game, and fear would have just been a shitshow 24/7 with out it. But at this point, the UN just keeps the big guilds in power, and the smaller guilds complacent. Some smaller guilds may be totally happy with this, of course. But I think the value proposition of the UN is somewhat contextual to the experiences and ambitions of the member guild.

Anyway, that is my rant, you are welcome to flame and disagree.

[Lothisu]

Originally Posted by fak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some lineage have, yes

Hate to say it but if you're a new guild on green with little to no experience from the blue server raid scene you might as well just disband now or take what you can get out of this UN agreement until Kunark comes out with more raid content.