What to twink? Wood Elf Ranger or Dark Elf Necro

[loaf]

I very much enjoyed my twink archer ranger like Ivory just mentioned above.

[Bardp1999]

Necro is the best class on P99 but do not require a ton of twinking to be effective. Even a Z Heeart and CoS are not class defining in the way a Fungi and a Haste are. HOWEVER! Getting a ton of HPs on your necro and the zheart regen is very nice and make the class play much much much smoother and its super noticable in the low levels. The only shit thing about Z Heart if you will need another melee weapon until probably around level 10 or 12 since Z Heart has no damage component. Sony really FKed over Shadow Knights by not adding damage to a Nec/SK only weapon

Rangers are garbage, Necros are kings, the choice seems pretty easy

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers are garbage, Necros are kings, the choice seems pretty easy

Necros are garbage compared to enchanters. He seems to be taking playstyle into account otherwise it'd be a choice between iksar monk #13239923, ogre shaman #403299298, and enchanter #50239092898, and rangers are typically 10x more fun to level and twink.

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Necros are garbage compared to enchanters.

Fake news

[feniin]

Now I want to Quad/Octo kite on my ranger with a Skydarkener. Thanks, Ivory.

[polishanarchy]

I'd suggest getting the fungi/haste/whatever for your ranger but grab a CoS too if you're really intent on playing a necro at some point.

[Raev]

Having played my necro to 52, I definitely feel like more HP/Mana makes a difference. Sure, you can fear kite 1-60 in rags. Maybe you can even charm solo 1-60 if you are religious about only fighting the lowest dark blues. But when you are trying to push the limits a bit, say Magi/Lord hall in Guk at L50, the extra HP/Mana/resists definitely matter. I've been spending 52 on the second floor of city of mist and even in that easy environment I find that a warbones can wreck me in only a few melee rounds.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having played my necro to 52, I definitely feel like more HP/Mana makes a difference. Sure, you can fear kite 1-60 in rags. Maybe you can even charm solo 1-60 if you are religious about only fighting the lowest dark blues. But when you are trying to push the limits a bit, say Magi/Lord hall in Guk at L50, the extra HP/Mana/resists definitely matter. I've been spending 52 on the second floor of city of mist and even in that easy environment I find that a warbones can wreck me in only a few melee rounds.

yea also here to iterate that INT casters are equally benefited from twinking. At low levels stack HP and mana everywhere and you'll double your mana pool and health.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea also here to iterate that INT casters are equally benefited from twinking. At low levels stack HP and mana everywhere and you'll double your mana pool and health.

Fair warning: this is in the firing line for nerf.

[Raev]

I'm curious what experiences people have had with ranger tanks. A full set of Golden Leaf armor (160AC) is barely ahead of the Indicolite armor (155 AC) that Warriors were wearing in classic era and compares very poorly with Myrmidon armor (250 AC) although not so badly with Blood Lord's armor (188 AC). Evidently the dragons prefer warriors! The blocking skills aren't that far behind the real tanks, but the 200 cap on raw defense is brutal and rangers are on the 4 HP/STA table so Complete Heal gets much less efficient.

I can see this working well before 50 when defense starts to lag, or with a defensively oriented class setup, say a cleric with clarity and a shaman doing nothing but slow. But in a more balanced setup, say tank + MNK/CLR/ENC, can the ranger really hold up when not every NPC is slowed?

TLDR: it feels to me that the 'best of the worst' title is between Bard and Monk, with Ranger well behind.