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Old 05-18-2017, 06:15 PM
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meh cant take your posts seriously
i dont read half of the shit any of you guys post, its like you just want to argue all day. its stupid
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:20 PM
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meh cant take your posts seriously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] multi paragraph diatribe and completely avoided the main point of the whole "free pixels" thing but anyways 5 am est is like 11am-1pm for most of europe which is not even close to prime time

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Without any form of competition, ie a rotation, those pixels are free. They require no effort except to show up, and beating the actual monsters in Everquest was NEVER the challenge you seem to think it was. The hardest part 18 years ago was finding the monsters up in order to kill them. I remember multiple nights where there were 4 guilds waiting for Aary to spawn in ToV on Xev for example. When wiping means that you just have to rez up and get ready to try again, its pointless.

Does that help? it is the same thing i have said multiple times but you clearly just lack the comprehension to understand it. The only thing that makes raiding a challenge is competing with other players.

The moment you implement a rotation you will have the top guilds all split because you no longer need a roster that can field 30-60 people at the drop of a hat. You will have an extra long rotation that would see the actual population average drop because why play 4 weeks a month when you only need to play 1 week ever 2 months. If that doesn't happen then you will have the current guilds who team up asking for their own spots in the rotation as well, as we have seen from CSG in the past.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:35 PM
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you clearly just lack the comprehension to understand it
I understand it just fine. You are just wrong. Every target still requires forming a raid and killing it. It still requires setting up balanced groups and CH rotations and having the proper resist gear, having a tank that knows how to position the boss, having dps that have half a brain and know how to not pull aggro, etc etc etc.

Ill also add I never once mentioned a rotation nor advocated it.


That said, if you raid on this server just to create artificial barriers to other guilds because you think the content is too easy on its own than you are a fuckin tool.

Insulting all the non A/A guilds by insinuating that they didn't deserve any of the kills they obtained during A/A's double suspension and that it was all "free welfare pixels" then making hypocritical claims like how much you love competition and that's what makes the game fun for you then A/A turns around and starts rotating stuff like Trakanon and CT/draco and pretty much almost every target that isn't based off the foot race 1-hour FTE lockout crap specifically to avoid competition just shows how full of shit you are.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:47 PM
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I understand it just fine. You are just wrong. Every target still requires forming a raid and killing it. It still requires setting up balanced groups and CH rotations and having the proper resist gear, having a tank that knows how to position the boss, having dps that have half a brain and know how to not pull aggro, etc etc etc.

Ill also add I never once mentioned a rotation nor advocated it.


That said, if you raid on this server just to create artificial barriers to other guilds because you think the content is too easy on its own than you are a fuckin tool.

Insulting all the non A/A guilds by insinuating that they didn't deserve any of the kills they obtained during A/A's double suspension and that it was all "free welfare pixels" then making hypocritical claims like how much you love competition and that's what makes the game fun for you then A/A turns around and starts rotating stuff like Trakanon and CT/draco and pretty much almost every target that isn't based off the foot race 1-hour FTE lockout crap specifically to avoid competition just shows how full of shit you are.
resist gear? keep demonstrating your lack of knowledge about the current raid scene while at the same time trying to talk about how much you think you know about it. There are maybe 5 fights in the game right now that you actually need resist gear for, and then its only MR. You can buy a full set of MR gear for under 5k plat, so difficult. there is no forming a raid on P99, there is now raid window. You just form groups and even then people don't even need to be in a group for the most part. You are just demonstrating your lack of knowledge when you talk about forming balanced groups in regards to classic EQ raid content. Setting up a CH chain? because having a macro where you substitute names next to numbers is hard? counting 1-6 is hard as well i guess?

I didn't say they didn't deserve them, i said that if you think killing a monster in classic Everquest is a challenge then you are mistaking. As proven by the fact that guilds who are not raiding guilds, and which have never stepped into the ToV competitive scene killed some dragons. Problem is it took them 4 days to do it, and none of them even attempted to dungeon crawl, which was the focus of their original complaints.

A/A is not rotating trak, and doesn't rotate draco... there are a total of 3-4 targets that A/A don't race each other for right now due to how many petitions stemmed from just those encounters. more misinformation from those a self proclaimed know it all. Its only hypocrisy to the uninformed, like you. What is funny though is even though its apparently common knowledge that A/A are rotating some things, these other guilds like CSG or rustle haven't even tried to capitalize on the fact that the A/A response will be slower than usual.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:21 PM
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Thank you Maner for clearing the air on this important topic.
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:46 AM
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Csg did try to craw... ahh feck it, replying to Maner is a fools errand
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:42 AM
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Csg did try to craw... ahh feck it, replying to Maner is a fools errand
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:53 AM
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EQ raiding is not meant to be competitive nor was it ever exceptionally hard. It got progressively harder in later expansions but it's still just an MMO. Not a whole ton of skill required by any stretch. Learn the boss mechanics and push the buttons at the right time and win. All these dickwaving morans bragging about their P99 FTE "competition" (lol) need to fuck off to an actual competitive game imo. Taking a noncompetitive relatively easy MMO and imposing artificial competition/difficulty onto it does not mean that's how its supposed to be. You thickheaded dipshit.

When I was a kid there was a playground at a nearby park that had a big plastic tic-tac-toe game on it. You could spin these plastic cubes with X and O's on them and play tic tac toe. I think we can all agree tic tac toe is not a hard game and wasn't meant to be a serious competitive game. What you (and other idiots like you) are doing with P99 it seems to me would be similar to implementing rules for that tic tac toe game to make it "hard" and "competitive". Imagine the tic tac toe game was only playable once per week and it unlocked randomly within a 16 hour window and only 1 match was allowed to be played but 10-15 groups of kids all wanted to play every week. Now imagine some of the shittier kids decided they deserve to play more than all the other kids so they set up a text message alert that will let them know when the game is ready at any time of day or night. Eventually everyone was doing that and the shitty kids decided to escalate to "win" the game and set up surveillance cameras to monitor when the game unlocked so they could rush to be the first kids to play. Eventually nobody gave a shit about the actual game anymore and the game became about beating the other kids to be able to play first and/or prevent other kids from enjoying the game.

I could go on and on with this analogy but I think you get my point. Do you not see how retarded that would be and how retarded P99 raiding has become? All this bullshit that goes on in the P99 raiding world is never how it was intended to be nor is it healthy or normal by any sane persons standards. Get help. It's not too late.
Get off your soap box, you sound literally retarded because you obviously have no idea about P99 raiding. If you knew what you were talking about I might argue with you, but from reading your post you have no actual idea how raiding on P99 works right now. Just because BDA got cucked into obscurity doesn't mean the raid scene is broken. Is there room for more than 2-4 guilds? No there isn't. You cant be in a guild and get beat week after week and have fun. With A/A and to a lesser Rustle, every guild is getting at least some kills ever week and it makes things work.

You do realize that 99% of the members of Aftermath/Awakened/Rustled are not staring at a share screen tracking right?

Is there room for tons of guilds - no - is it manageable with 2-3 guilds - absolutely.

If you want to raid join one of the raiding guilds - sorry if this crushes your sense of self or some bull sh!t self entitlement you have that makes you think "HEY ME AND MY 30 RETARD GUILDMATES DESERVE DRAGONS ALL TO OURSELVES". Well f#ck you - Awakened and Aftermath are both very easy to join and are not "exclusive" or "elite" in their recruitment practices. If you want to raid you are welcome to either guild.

The raid scene is the best it has been in a long time if you are a part of Awakened or Aftermath - The super neck beards are geared out now, the casual scum has stopped interfering, and the guild leaders in each guild have the game down to a science where we waste very little time. Even sh!t lords like myself are getting nice ToV loot.

TLDR - Stop your b!tching and just join one of the 2 server raiding guilds if you want dragons. There isn't room for 10 guilds in ToV and there never will be.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:56 AM
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Oh and on Aftermath we have a 10% raid attendance requirement to get loot. 10%.... That's 2 raids per week and a total of about 30 minutes of play time.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:32 AM
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Oh and on Aftermath we have a 10% raid attendance requirement to get loot. 10%.... That's 2 raids per week and a total of about 30 minutes of play time.
Yea -- but say your a rogue that wants to --you know -- up their damage. Welp, now you have to compete for that twice a year drop for the Myrokar Dagger (the only strict upgrade). there's about 4-5 Rogues with a good amount of DKP most the time...I think like 1 has it. You know what great about all this....it used to drop more in classic!! lol! They actually lowered the drop rate on "classic" p99.

Anyway, maybe if you had to clear a dungeon 2-3 times a week it would be worth sticking around for. But the concept of staring at walls at least 1-2 days a week for years? lol...

That's not a playstyle it's a mental illness.
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