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[bigjerry]

thread tagged, to quote my radio edit (rip)

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Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He is a nasty man who brandishes hurtful words. He speaks contemptuously of the less fortunate and levies blame upon individuals for the outcomes of their decisions with no regard for the nefarious underpinnings of greater American society. He is insensitive to the motives of aggressors and the circumstances that may have lead them to lash out in desperation. He has bankrupted three (3) times, while stealing the wealth of ordinary Americans by exploiting government regulation. He seeks to divide and rain war upon the world.

Words can't cause harm.

Nefarious underpinnings - now I'm waiting for the book.

If you stop to consider the motives of an aggressor you will likely be taken down before you get another chance to defend yourself.

MoB.

Originally Posted by RP

It is disappointing, but not surprising, that the Obamacare repeal would be used to justify increasing spending. Despite sequestration’s minor (and largely phony) spending cuts, federal spending has increased every year since Republicans took control of the House of Representatives. Some will attribute this to the fact that the Republican House had to negotiate with a big-spending Democratic president — even though federal spending actually increased by a greater percentage the last time Republicans controlled the White House and Congress than it did under President Obama.

The history of massive spending increases under unified Republican control of government is likely to repeat itself. During the presidential campaign, President-elect Donald Trump came out against reducing spending on “entitlements.” He also called for a variety of spending increases, including spending one trillion dollars on infrastructure.


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President-elect Trump has criticized the past two administrations’ reckless foreign policy, and he has publicly shamed the powerful Lockheed Martin company for wasting taxpayer money. Yet, he continues to support increasing the military budget and has called for increased military intervention in the Middle East.

[Pokesan]

pointless thread republicans control both houses they can't obstruct anything

enjoy the toll roads

[bigjerry]

obongo had majorities once too and he couldn't even close gitmo despite trying very earnestly to because he's a good man. the system is rigged so not even a very good ethnic president can make a difference, we need to invest more power in the office of president and give him or her more unilateral authority so we can be freer.

[Pokesan]

blue dogs were somehow obamas fault got it

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by bigjerry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

obongo had majorities once too and he couldn't even close gitmo despite trying very earnestly to because he's a good man. the system is rigged so not even a very good ethnic president can make a difference, we need to invest more power in the office of president and give him or her more unilateral authority so we can be freer.

Hes keeping it open for dissent. He already got all his terrorist buddies out

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pointless thread republicans control both houses they can't obstruct anything

enjoy the toll roads

I actually don't mind toll roads so long as as the price remains high enough that sufficient people are deterred from utilizing and contesting them.

Originally Posted by bigjerry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

obongo had majorities once too and he couldn't even close gitmo despite trying very earnestly to because he's a good man. the system is rigged so not even a very good ethnic president can make a difference, we need to invest more power in the office of president and give him or her more unilateral authority so we can be freer.

This is a super good point, one to which I think more and more Americans on both sides of the isle are waking up to. If Obama had a bit more latitude, he could have done a lot more. Both sides have finally woken up to the largely untapped potency of SCOTUS through which the executive arm can enact significant change, but that is super slow.

Executive Orders are extraordinarily flexible and while many like to credit Obama with being some sort of pioneer with them, he didn't really differ from other recent presidents. Take a look at FDR. There was a man who knew how to legislate. More recent leaders don't have that sort of conviction though :c They all too busy complaining about the other side rather than understanding them and acting in their best interest along with the rest of the nation's. It's time we stop hobbling our leaders and let them lead (once we get a good one that is).

[maskedmelon]

I should add though that while toll roads make sense by associating use with funding, they are not good policy because they are more burdensome on mid-lower income peoples whose money is better spent on sandwiches and dvds than whored between various government entities until it's empty husk is ultimately returned to corporate America.

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[Angushjalmur]

The only real downside to Trump is how friendly he is with a particular country responsible for genocide, fake news, market manipulation, aggressive expansion, extortion, and the steering of other country's foreign and trade policies.