How Blood Guard does Lodi

[joshg]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I heard that part of the reason Manasana left AG was due to RL political reasons.

AG is full of liberals and socialists, people he commonly calls "libtards." This created a rift between Manasana and the guild, as many of the AG members took great offense to being called "libtards."

When the rest of AG leadership refused to boot the liberals and socialists (some of them are "libtards" too), Manasana decided to commit mutiny and take with him others who supported a more conservative outlook in RL (fiscally/socially) because this matters in the game.

Thus, BG was born.

He's actually Eric Trump in real life, and Willfight is Ben Carson

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really off topic here, but sure, I'll bite.

Napoleon's strategy at Austerlitz relied heavily on him getting his opponents to believe he was weak and therefore goad them into attacking him. His victory at Austerlitz is considered to be one of the greatest tactical battles in history (next to Hannibal's victory at Cannae), in part because he really was weaker (his force was smaller than the Prussians' and the Holy Roman Empire's at the time), and also because he accurately predicted exactly what needed to happen to ensure his victory.

Historians pretty widely accept his strategy at Austerlitz as a great one, so unless you want to contest that, the only matter of contention is "can fooling your opponent into thinking you're weak and then defeating him when he abandons his position to attack you be considered a 'dick move'".

Back on topic though, I'd hardly consider playing an 18 year old PVE MMO to be on the same level as fighting an enemy army in a battle that will decide the fate of your nation. One seems a little more acceptable to fight tooth and nail as it's literally a matter of life and death, the other is just a video game, and I'd expect more people to be willing to adhere to common decency when 'competing' in the latter.

then you're doing it wrong

I read this weekly before I prepare of battle on the boards

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[Zoggren]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then you're doing it wrong

I read this weekly before I prepare of battle on the boards

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I recommend this just as much, if not more, than the Art of War:

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recommend this just as much, if not more, than the Art of War:

you just got me hard

thx

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recommend this just as much, if not more, than the Art of War:

Is that Riker from Star Trek TNG?

[Glasken]

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This is some of the more hilarious shit I have seen on these forums. Damn good summary sir.

Rather than just quote peeps left and right, I'll add my two twigs to this now smoldering fire:

The tactics exhibited by the BG members were in poor taste, but legal. There is no dispute in this, either from a player perspective or GM perspective (as we saw form Sirkens ruling). While I don't approve of preemptively stealing the preferred pet in an attempt to deny another guild a kill, I do understand why it was done. Fairly clever really.

The AG players, intentionally or not, broke the rules. Period. What was visible on your client is irrelevant. What your intentions were, is irrelevant. The rules were broken the instant the first spell landed on that dog, an NPC already engaged by another player. The classy thing to do would have been to apologize, break charm, and attempt the fight without the pet, or charm something else that was available.


Now, I have been away form the game for around a year, coming back only in September. As far as I recall, AG has always been a guild that tries to stay on the right side of the rules, and I personally have never seen them attempt to skirt the rules for their own gain. I know next to nothing about BG other than that Mana left AG to join/form/whatever BG. While the opinions of the various leaders may be neutral to each other, it is clear some guild members (and officers) have some seriously salty feelings towards each other that extend far beyond a frankly insignificant lodi attempt.

Y'all need to kiss and make up. Petty bullshit like this only serves to tarnish reputations. And as stated above, AG largely stays out of RNF. For good reason. Lets keep it that way.


Dreenk317, I am still laughing over those memes. Thanks for that.

[Manasana2]

Ya was very fun I hope to RNF again!!!

[Cecily]

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[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cecily, please fuck off. I said a hundred times by now that there was no way to know if tash landed before melee. We evidently need FTE shouts on all potential pets in Iceclad Ocean.

I'm not ignorant of the rules and neither is my wife. When I refer to my naivety, I'm talking about the fact that we were not mentally prepared for griefers.

Come on man. It took me a month of playing on P99 to see how dicks play on this game.

As soon as I see ONE player march up to a mob camp area I am at, I 100% expect them to try something sheisty and I am on high alert waiting for them to try something dirty.

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The problem here is being a grizzled veteran yet feigning ignorance of other's behavior on this game/server. This sounds very disengenuous.

Basically BG played dirtier than you, and won.

Also to note, both parties tried to win the ever-important encounter with the Legendary Summoned Sirken.

When BG won The Favor of Sirken through master mob-lawyering, the situation was brought to RnF for some fun and with hopes that some vindication would be wrought out of it.



TL;DR

All I got from this thread was you need to up your dirty playing and not be so upset when you are outplayed via dirty tactics.

I also learned Manasana types out very long raging run-on sentences and is a neocon that hates liberals.

And, I learned some of BG are masters at playing dirty so I will be on extremely high alert anytime I see this guild near any valuable mobs I am trying to camp.

[Rygar]

I thank the ForumQuest gods for this thread, all you should be kissing Grizluk's feet right now! Soooo much entertainment in here.

A true RnF gem amongst imitators.

This scenario is like a Roe v. Wade ruling across the lands of Norrath... is purposefully killing a mob in order to facilitate the death of 2 players just to gain loot on a mob they are engaged with within the confines of the play nice policy?

Conversely, when engaged in battle, is it not a smart move to take out your opponent's arsenal to swing the tide of battle in your favor? What general would not endorse this maneuver?

A true paradox the lands of Norrath has never seen, nor never will again.

I think Sirken got it just right, despawn Lodi, no loot for anyone. Moral of the story: if you don't work together to resolve disputes, no one comes out ahead.

Also, for all you guys claiming Grizluk is throwing his wife under the bus... just stop. That is very personal and accusatory, and frankly you are just trying to cause RL drama away from the keyboard. Don't talk about another man's wife, be a decent human being. Even if you feel that is really the case just stop, why cause any RL strife? This is a freaking game people, calm yourself.

Lastly, everyone is losers in the story since Lodi is cancer.

P.S. I'm in AG

P.P.S. I heart Manasana, he recruited me into AG. He is responsible for leading multiple open plate house events for greed / recruitment and Gwurm farms that were NBG on spells for all. He cares about helping folks out and gets a rush from it.

P.P.P.S. Grizluk and Meah are solid people, a lot of you are taking a dump on them unnecessarily. I'm willing to bet a lot of you are nice folk in game but have gotten into camp disputes that you feel you are in the right on, yet others feel you are scum for. Judge not.