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[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't worship at the alter of economic growth -- then you don't need them. But immigration helps build the overall size of the economy by concentrating talented individuals in first world countries like ours. We get the kind of people we need when we need them from a labor supply perspective.

The more hand wavy shit would be about cultural enrichment and the positive effects of globalization.

Basically, if the economy isn't growing -- rich people aren't happy. In America, they are very good at having the lower classes suffer more from economic downturns than other first world countries. But that is starting to wear thin because it has been so long since the lower orders have seen any growth in real wages. Meanwhile luxary for the rich has skyrocketed.

growth is the only thing keep mick's apocalyptic sex-fantasy from becoming real

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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But there's nothing white supremacist about what you post, right Fash?

(And before you say "I was just quoting history", I'm referring specifically to the highlighting you chose, in the context of your post.)

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't worship at the alter of economic growth -- then you don't need them. But immigration helps build the overall size of the economy by concentrating talented individuals in first world countries like ours. We get the kind of people we need when we need them from a labor supply perspective.

The more hand wavy shit would be about cultural enrichment and the positive effects of globalization.

Basically, if the economy isn't growing -- rich people aren't happy. In America, they are very good at having the lower classes suffer more from economic downturns than other first world countries. But that is starting to wear thin because it has been so long since the lower orders have seen any growth in real wages. Meanwhile luxary for the rich has skyrocketed.

I'd be at the top of the pyramid regardless how it was structured. I don't care about that. I passed on values to my children that would allow them to flourish. Investments and constant GDP growth aren't great arguments anymore because automation really is coming. People are more likely to be liabilities as opposed to assets in the future. Our fertility rate is what, 1.8 kids per woman? That's a good pace to decline at. Let all the kids go into nursing to care for the elderly... $15,000 minimum income per annum so that peopl can afford healthcare and education (cut all forms of welfare)

It would work fine. But yeah, I agree that we have to tell Wall Street and Hollywood that they won't call the shots in the future. I'm thinking st some point even corrupt ass holes will realize population growth without decent job opportunities = bad for markets

[fash]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But there's nothing white supremacist about what you post, right Fash?

Did I say any group is superior?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I say any group is superior?

Not at all, you merely implied it.

I will say that I'm stoked that I was able to get anyone to watch an episode of Bullshit though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] That show is so amazing (it's made by right-wing libertarians and I'm a liberal and I still like it, it's that good).

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

growth is the only thing keep mick's apocalyptic sex-fantasy from becoming real

Disagree

The north Europeans will figure out a post growth economy... them or the Japanese. Hopefully at that point we'll have a populace that is smart enough to understand we aren't #1 anymore

Also, we can increase productivity without increasing population

[fash]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(And before you say "I was just quoting history", I'm referring specifically to the highlighting you chose, in the context of your post.)

Are you saying limiting immigration to "free white persons" wouldn't reduce illegal immigration of mestizos?

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not at all, you merely implied it.

I will say that I'm stoked that I was able to get anyone to watch an episode of Bullshit though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get over it dude I'm not white and I prefer white people to my own

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disagree

The north Europeans will figure out a post growth economy... them or the Japanese. Hopefully at that point we'll have a populace that is smart enough to understand we aren't #1 anymore

Also, we can increase productivity without increasing population

you're not gonna lock the wheel in place without alot of people getting crushed

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying limiting immigration to "free white persons" wouldn't reduce illegal immigration of mestizos?

I'm saying that the moment you start implying that race matters you're inherently implying that one race is inferior/superior; if all races were equal it'd be as pointless to bring race up as it is to bring up the fact that (almost) all humans have two ears.