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[JurisDictum]

You have to go to the south in specific areas to find white underclass -- but it is there and real. Big on that born-again religion that's very otherworldly and rhetorically performative...very authoritarian and repressive of any that don't fit in.

There is long history of exploiting poor white people in the south. If you are a poor white kid with a southern accent, there is significant baggage there that a California middle class kid does not have.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been here, I've just been trying to limit my off-topic/RnF posting after realizing how true Brandolini's Law is. It's been great for my free time and sanity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



Well now I feel obligated to watch Bad Santa out of fairness. Hopefully it's on HBO/Hulu/Netflix/Amazon/...

find the cookies, lor. eat them.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because some racial group is 5% taller than group Y doesn't mean group X is "racially superior". Calling out a group difference isn't racial supremacy.

Sure you aren't the racist one? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, being taller on average makes their height -generally- "superior".

including this sort of factoid in an economic discussion is the strange part!

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have to go to the south in specific areas to find white underclass -- but it is there and real. Big on that born-again religion that's very otherworldly and rhetorically performative...very authoritarian and repressive of any that don't fit in.

There is long history of exploiting poor white people in the south. If you are a poor white kid with a southern accent, there is significant baggage there that a California middle class kid does not have.

pfft there are poor white people all over the country, but consistently liberals focus only on white southern culture, because deep down all of your problem really comes from that 1990's Marilyn Manson angst of being told to go to church as a white kid growing up in the suburbs and to not paint your fingernails black.

go to riverseide, its a huge whtie population of poor people, orange, outside PDX, basically ALL of northern California, all the way up to Seattle.

anywho, the truth is all socialists are just still upset about how they were treated as goths in the 90s and that's why you have so many hangups on atheism and Christianity.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because some racial group is 5% taller than group Y doesn't mean group X is "racially superior". Calling out a group difference isn't racial supremacy.

Sure you aren't the racist one? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again context matters. If you're talking about basketball-playing ability, where height is relevant, and race X tends to be taller, then it's absolutely a statement of racial superiority (a true one) to say that race X with taller members than race Y will (as a group) start with a biological advantage in basketball. Height is relevant there, so you bring up a racial relationship to height. It might not be PC, and it might be considered racist by some people I guess, but it's just basic facts and a logical conclusion derived from them.

Similarly if you bring up a race's height in a conversation about knitting, you must be implying that height somehow matters for knitting ... or that you're a brainless racist who spouts out racial facts unrelated to the current conversation. If you bring up a race without a specific attribute (eg. height), then you're implying that there is an unspecified racial factor that somehow matters for knitting.

The conversation we were having was like knitting; there were no obvious factual race-based differences, so if someone brings up race they're implying that there is a race-based difference, ie. that one race is superior ... or they just like to spout stuff unrelated to the conversation.

[fash]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, being taller on average makes their height -generally- "superior".

So you're a racial supremacist if you think one race taller than some other race? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

including this sort of factoid in an economic discussion is the strange part!

Off topic is on topic in the off topic forum? I think I'm doing it right.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a context where there is no obvious factual race-based differences, the same holds true: if you bring up race you're implying there is a (non-obvious) race-based difference ... or you just spout nonsense.

race = culture in America these days. So by bringing up cultural phenomenon YOU libtards are going to think that someone is bringing race into the conversation.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're a racial supremacist if you think one race taller than some other race? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Normally I'm pretty serious in these discussions, but as I hoped my "[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]" and "/duck" indicated, I was just messing around on that. Because, you know, hooker murder is totally a joking topic ...

(That's one thing I'm with the libertarians on: even the blackest of black humor can be funny to someone and deserves protection.)

not to worry friend ATG is known for very cool and normal posts and likes posting with his cool and normal friends online

*daps mickmoranis*

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're a racial supremacist if you think one race taller than some other race? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes! You are saying that the taller race is superior at things related to height, which is a logical conclusion to draw from the fact that race A tends to be taller than race B. Again, not the most PC thing to say, but it's a fact based statement of racial superiority.

However when you don't mention height, then you're implying there is some unspecified attribute that race X has which makes them superior in whatever you were talking about. Like if you are having a conversation about illegal immigration and suddenly someone starts saying that (I'm paraphrasing here) we wouldn't have as many problems with immigrants if we only kept the non-white ones out ... that's implying that race X ("whites") have some racial attribute which makes them less likely to commit crime.

... ie. you're making the argument one race is superior to the other, because of an unspecified attribute(s), in the arena of not committing crimes. You don't have to literally say that, the very fact that you're bringing up race in a conversation about immigrant crime inherently implies that you're saying it for a reason, and the only reason to do so would be to express race X's superiority (at not being criminals).