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Old 06-01-2014, 01:19 PM
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Default SStrength 'soft cap' & mainhand damage bonus

While the information is only useful in certain grouping events as a bard I wanted to ask some general melee questions.

When I was going over the information to max my dps I came across a few posts on another forum mentioning a strength 'soft cap'. I assume this is in regards to some diminishing returns that strength gives after a certain point. Is anyone aware of this and care to explain.

Which leads me to diminishing returns question in general. Are their other stats that would provide diminishing returns after a certain threshold (such as AC?).

Finally I also noticed that their is a mainhand only damage bonus applied after a certain threshold. Does anyone have any tables for bards that include level so I can catch what damage bonus im getting at what level to maximize my melee dps when i use it?

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Old 06-01-2014, 04:42 PM
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As a rogue, it's easy to see your max hit diminish with sub-255 str. Bards are kinda bad melee dps... Damage bonus will be applied regardless of str. Try for as close to 255 str as you can get, but in your case it doesn't matter b/c bard and no dual wield.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:37 PM
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What I mean by diminishing returns is where you invest in something then there is a ceiling that investments after that give you less.

So perhaps strength gains up to 150 give you +1 damage per strength but anything above 150 gives you +0.5 damage per strength. (this is just an example)

I saw strength soft capped mentioned, and wondered if there is a diminishing return on strength or any other melee statistic for that matter.

Also Cecily bards get duel wield sooo huh?
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:16 PM
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I'm guessing he means Double Attack
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Old 06-03-2014, 05:06 PM
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Most stats soft cap at 200. AC soft cap is hard to pinpoint, but I believe the consensus is that it's around 850. AC is still being tweaked, so don't consider that set in stone.
I've seen a damage bonus table around here somewhere; I'll see if I can find it.
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Old 06-03-2014, 05:24 PM
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DMG Bonus:

Mainhand+2h with <28 delay
=(lvl-25)/3

2h delay 28-39
=(lvl-25)/2

2h delay 40-42
=((lvl-25)/2)+1

2h delay 43-44
=((lvl-25)/2)+2

2h delay >44
=((lvl-25)/2)+(delay-31)/3

Source is Yaolin's Monk DPS chart: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwLk...JtaGVsanM/edit
Pretty sure Yao got those from Rogean's code on dmg bonus he posted a long time ago
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:51 PM
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So to reiterate ~

Most stats soft cap at 200 (where the gains become smaller past the 200 mark), and AC is around 850 more or less.

And while I appreciate the 2h bonus Iphice, I am under the impression the bonuses for 1h are slightly different. I saw one that was on live, but it appeared to be too modern and likely incorrect for p99.

I know for a bard this may seem trivial but as someone who wants to be the very best I can be for the groups I join, I want to have my melee dps as it is maxed to the teeth within my ability. Hence why I ask these questions.

The soft stat cap in particular is important because bards need many stats for many situations and I want to max my ability out with changing gear at these lower levels at least if not end game barding.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:53 PM
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the mainhand part of the DPS bonuses is for 1 hand weapons (first equation)
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:54 PM
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Which leads me to ask, do resists have soft caps as well?
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:58 PM
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Ah excellent ! Thank you Iphice!
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