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Old 08-20-2014, 05:16 PM
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:17 PM
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"......This honestly has far less to do with the casino ban than you think it does...... etc"
Also, as a side note:



There are some people who have paid hundreds of dollars for their characters and pixels who would beg to differ that platinum doesn't have real world value.

Sure you could say that plat is commodity money, and I think you just reinforce that it has value by even doing this ban. I understand the problem is more beyond the casino itself and more of what they allow to happen more easily, I just think the approach to the real problem is being handled wrong.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:18 PM
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It really hits at player freedom...again.
Why have player freedom when you can give the guides/GMs more work to do policing all forms of gambling. It's a win/win.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:28 PM
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Define "irony":

Outlawing gambling in a game based on this:
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:30 PM
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Sure you could say that plat is commodity money, and I think you just reinforce that it has value by even doing this ban. I understand the problem is more beyond the casino itself and more of what they allow to happen more easily, I just think the approach to the real problem is being handled wrong.
I am all ears for suggestions on how to fix the real problem.

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Why have player freedom when you can give the guides/GMs more work to do policing all forms of gambling. It's a win/win.
It's actually far less work. It's definitely easier from a CSR Investigations standpoint to just prohibit their use completely.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:44 PM
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:55 PM
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Why not handle all the scamming/crying about beeing scamed the classic way: classic PnP stated clearly: "All trades are final". You hit trade and dont get anything in return, then its your fault since you hit trade and the staff can just delete the petition about it.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:57 PM
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Why not handle all the scamming/crying about beeing scamed the classic way: classic PnP stated clearly: "All trades are final". You hit trade and dont get anything in return, then its your fault since you hit trade and the staff can just delete the petition about it.

Because the issue at hand isn't scamming.. it's RMT's

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I am all ears for suggestions on how to fix the real problem.
I don't think there's anything you can do to completely stop RMTs from happening besides making everything free and available... or making plat's real money value so low that it's not worth trying to sell for money.. only way I can think to do that is make everything more available...

You could argue that to be able to make things more available to decrease the value of plat so that it's not worth it to sell for real money, would ultimately change the game and it wouldn't be Classic EQ, but since RMT's are the main issue at hand, I'd assume the goal is to get rid of RMT's and if the goal is to stop it completely then are the steps to make plat/items more available in motion as well? Or are the GM's not trying to stop RMT's, just be able to control/target them easier?


I'll do your volunteer staff work for you and go through the logs to track down RMT's if it's coming down to "less work" for the GMs/CSRs. I'll pick up the slack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:06 PM
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what about casino license? you can earn it, you can lose it, bit of work for the staff, but clean server....
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:11 PM
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It's actually far less work. It's definitely easier from a CSR Investigations standpoint to just prohibit their use completely.
That's cool that you can make that judgement before the policy even goes into effect.

Maybe I'm wrong and your serverwide gambling prohibition will be like marijuana prohibition and plenty will do it and it'll be barely policed. Which seems to be Rogean's take on the situation.
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Have you ever played a card game with friends for money? Made Bets etc? If so, that's illegal. You're not going to have the police knocking down your door for it though.
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