Originally Posted by Tuljin
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It's funny I even include a caveat in a very well articulated class discussion forum post, and not only do I get "poo-pooed", this asshole brings it to RnF. He then accuses me of "chomping away on giant bowl of nacho flavored latex paint" when I plainly have a better command of the English language than 90% of the people who post here, and certainly a better command than him. You are -really- mad dude lol
I will say, and I will keep banging this fucking drum, and many excellent players will wholeheartedly agree with me and do to this day, point into wis is of little consequence to a priest in PvE and ~especially on this box when everybody ~~~rAiDs~~~ with 100 people~
So just like all the other self-proclaimed MMO geniuses on P99 you perform basic arithmetic as the main basis of your argument and subsequently present it as if its theoretical mathematics. You then present this incredibly weak argument and claim that "the glove fits!"
And hold on....are we actually arguing the importance and effectiveness of ~every single cha point~ when it comes to crit resists? Didn't we already figure this out? What the fuck are you talking about man? What the fuck is going on here?
23% of your -starting- points. How about when you quickly hit 200 points from all the wis gear you have on? Then how about when you go over the softcap and the amount of points per mana plummets? Did you factor those into your theoretical equation? Did you account for the 23% of your -starting- mana that's what, 3 mana at level 1, when at this point 3 months into the server anybody rolling a cleric is going to get Moonstone Rings and some cheap JC wrists and get damn near 100 mana immediately? What the fuck are you talking about?
How about factoring this into your bullshit arithmetic that you try to pass off as "eureka!" or "a-ha!" you fucking idiot - - how about sitting to catch med ticks diligently? You realize how much catching a med tick is worth vs. just standing between casts? Do you know how many raw mana points that is over time? How about catching med ticks with clarity? How many ticks does it take to catch the amount of mana you lost from that 25 wis from your mana pool under softcap? How about over softcap? Did you factor these into your equation? Can you do this math on your cell phone? Or with an abacus? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Also, how many ~cLeRiCs~ or any players in general are disciplined to sit to catch every single med tick between casts as much as possible? ~hEaLiNg~ takes SO much effort that theres no POSSIBLE way people can be bothered to sit the fuck down immediately after their cast. No, that's waaaaay to much work.
Here's another thing to factor into your 23% arithmetic you moron - how about the fact that every single second you spend playing EQ at full mana is wasted time you could be getting more mana? And how about how many bad players at this game sit around with waaaay to much mana in their bar? You ---never--- want to be full mana unless you are getting ready for a gnarly pull or obviously just camping a couple mobs. If your bar is full, you cast SOMETHING - cast a nuke, cast another buff, SOMETHING - and then get more mana. So do you know how to calculate this into your theoretical math Mr. Tyson?
What's also interesting to me is how of all the -actual- stupid shit written on these forums as well as all the -actual- horrible players and tryhard coattail riders on this box I am flamed on RnF for writing something that is commonly agreed upon by many EQ players in an intelligent manner on a class discussion forum. I don't "make this shit up" dude.
P99 does have a lot of bugs. One of those bugs? Way too many mana per point over softcap. Even still, stat points over softcap are wasted points. This is common knowledge. The nature of cleric gear is such that, especially if you ~~~rAiD~~~ as most clerics do, you will easily get over softcap because cleric gear has tons of wisdom. Then you know what happens? You hit hardcap and your roll points are completely wasted. This knowledge is so incredibly basic, especially those who supposedly "know EQ," as you apparently do, you fucking idiot
I also addressed every single point anybody else made, including how most players don't even calm or pull on cleric, and also how if you dump all your CHA at roll you get hosed on your roll every time you crit resist. But you just cherry pick and take it to RnF like the fucking moron you are. I can't even believe you are accusing me of "chomping away on giant bowl of nacho flavored latex paint" when I even play devil's advocate. You are such an incredible fucking asshole.
It's really funny because on this box when you're one of 10 plus clerics on a ~rAiD~ you actually don't need a mana pool. Even MORE comical is the fact that the ~~~hArDcOrE rAiDeRs~~~ mostly have a manastone. So what the fuck do you need a mana pool for? If you know you are getting a Manastone and going to be a ~~~hArDcOrE rAiDeR~~~ why don't you go dwarf and point out STA? Why do many ~~~hArDcOrE rAiDeRs~~~ actually min/max a Dwarf with a full STA roll? As discussed on this server for years? Again, "I don't make this shit up."
What actually happens is that most players put all their points into Wis on PvE because they don't aspire to do a god damn thing besides collect DKP and sit in a CH chain. In fact the vast majority of players on P99 have absolutely no idea what most classes can do, mostly because they've never had the fortune of playing with and learning from good players. They just level up in full groups and then get that DKP while others do the heavy lifting. When I play I actually go kill hard shit and get drops. I do it duo with Shaman and do all the calming. I'll go with an Enc buddy and he will calm and watch his pet while I pull. When I play I'm out killing shit deep in dungeons. I don't politick and I don't sit around collecting DKP.
So, how is it that I made it to max 50 without being in a ~~~rAiD gUiLd~~~ and soloing many of my levels, including the majority of my 40s? How did I do that putting points into CHA? Which by the way I did 15wis 15cha, which I mention in my post. Is soloing and pulling as a cleric not more ~hArDcOrE~ than sitting on your ass FM in a full 6 man group or sitting around in a CH chain? Is pulling nameds that hit for 160 underwater on a Cleric not ~hArDcOrE~? Is going and doing hard cash camps duo with a Shaman and doing all the calming not ~hArDcOrE~? What the fuck is going on here?
Why do people want me to play with them and enjoy playing with me when I made such a stupid choice with my roll? Am I letting everybody die? Am I not pulling and CCing and stunning and moving everything along...as a cleric? Am I a fucking asshole and not actually a nice guy and enjoyable to play with? Maybe -you- are the paint chip eating idiot dude.
Is putting 25 points into Cha on an Inny human a "bad" choice? It's really fucking not. You know why? Not only because it makes a lot of sense if you pull your head out of your ass and realize that Wis is overrated and easy to get, it's also because it doesn't fucking matter. You can put all your points in STA and get max lvl. You could put it all into DEX and as long as you meet the ****sole criterion**** of playing EQ all fucking day long you can get into a ~~~rAiD gUiLd~~~ and get dragon loot. What the fuck does it matter?
So let me get this straight - - - you're going to take an intelligently argued discussion from Class Discussion threads and take it directly to RnF. You're going to cherry pick it in an attempt to make me look stupid. You are -then- going to get called on your opinion that many great EQ players would disagree with, in fact making -you- look stupid. You are -then- going to perform very basic arithmetic, form a very weak argument, and then "day bow bow" starts playing in your stupid fucking idiot head. You are -then- going to link to your RnF post in the class discussion thread. THEN you're gonna come around acting like rolling +Wis on a class/race combo people roll *specifically* to min/max a charming, pulling cleric is some of no-brainer "nugget of gold" and you're some kind of fucking genius and smarter than everybody else? And then you're gonna flame me on RnF about it? And be ~~~~reeeeeeally~~~~ fucking "mad" about it? This is in fact what you did, yes?
And I'm assuming you expect me to sit here and fucking "take it?"
You are a fucking neanderthal. Go fuck right off you asshole
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02-12-2020, 01:45 PM
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