New Server Concept - PVE/P

[Old_PVP]

New Server Concept - PVE/P


Gather round fellow adventurers and pull up a chair. We currently have 3 servers on Project99, some with different rulesets. Surely there must be 1 ruleset to rule them all? One server where different playstyles can coexist in the same environment. Now hear me out...it could be possible.

One thing is for certain, PVP needs some love. However, the MOST important thing to a PVP server is numbers. Healthy server population numbers to be exact. But how you ask? NOBODY likes murdering others in EverQuest, surely!! But that isn't exactly the case now is it? I am continually perplexed when I see so many blues & greens get excited over Best of the Best tournaments. This was also the case in EQ live days...bluebie servers were loving the chance to kill their fellows in The Arena. You Blue & Green players do have an inner killer waiting to be unleashed... you just need the proper motivation. So, Red players actually need you Blue & Green players in order to create a healthy population. To create that PK / Anti-PK dynamic which worked so well on Rallos Zek. How do we get players that don't like PVP into PVP situations? I'm glad you asked! PIXELS baby!

Ok, hold on to your pants and picture this. Disable Legacy items from dropping off their traditional mobs, forever...thus disabling the legacy rat race. Instead, give Legacy items, Pre-nerfed items, items that no longer drop & even some raid items as rewards for PVP tournaments/events. Even rewards like firepot binding.

LEGACY ITEMS / EVENTS - Host PVP events regularly, they don't have to be huge, even small events will yield some lesser rewards. There can be many forms of PVP events. Best of the Best per class, group matches, guild matches stretching across a designated zone. The events don't always have to take place in The Arena either, the staff could "turn on" the PVP for a certain zone and hold an all out bloodbath event with great rewards. The idea is planned PVP would always be happening and players that want to participate can be richly rewarded. Those that don't want to participate can go on their merry way. Legacy items would never "stop dropping" or ever become a fixed & ever dwindling amount, as new items would be rewarded over time, via events. Some of these items would still be purchaseable for insane amounts of platinum if people ever wanted to sell them.

BUT WAIT...There's more! Before all this talk of PVP scares you blues off...let's be clear: this server would be primarily PVE. In fact, most of the zones would be your traditional PVE zones. Some zones however, would be FFA (free for all) PVP. These zones would not be necessary connecting zones or banking zones and could be avoided entirely if one chooses! However, with risk comes great rewards...

HOT ZONES - For the brave adventurers that chose to level in these handful of FFA zones (most likely some dungeons) - the ZEM bonus would be insane, similar if not better to Red's current group exp bonus (290%) - staff discretion to increase that to attract even more people. Also the drops would be greatly increased in terms of raw plat / gems. These specially designated zones could even be on a rotating schedule much like hot zones back on live. This accomplishes a few things: It gives life to an underutilized corner of the world by incentivizing people with huge ZEM bonus / loot. It helps to keep world PVP relevant and satiate the random PKer's desire for bloodlust and grief. It keeps the world interesting and always changing by regularly revolving the massive ZEM bonus zones. Now, there does need to be incentive for the PKs to show up to these zones and actually attempt to kill people, or they might just group up and join in on the riches! That incentive is COIN. If you die, (remember there are only a handful of zones this can happen in) you will lose the coins that you are carrying. Risk vs. Reward. On the flip side, you can attempt to kill the PK and steal his coins! If that is not your cup of tea though, you can always choose to level at a more leisurely pace (without the massive ZEM bonus) in the PVE zones.

RAIDING - At least 1 of the high end raid zones needs to be FFA to encourage high end guild warfare. We could possibly even utilize the "Guild War" command to allow guilds that want more PVP to have that option. Other raid zones could still be PVE, utilizing some player agreed upon rotation schedule. However, to incentivize guilds into resolving their disputes through bloodshed, the staff could make it so that guilds that are currently at war with 3 or more other guilds, (certain parameters would need to be in place to avoid exploitation) would have a higher frequency on rotation schedules. Once again, Risk vs. Reward...the concept that is foundational to many great games. A guild that chooses to live a little riskier and be at war with multiple targets could potentially reap the benefits.

Most of you people want PVP, you just want it on your terms. When you feel like it, when you are buffed & prepared, and most of all just for the fun of it. On this server, you can avoid PVP entirely if you don't want it at all! You can craft, tunnelquest, level with friends and PVP be damned! Hot FFA zones will eventually rotate, and turn back into PVE zones, so you won't forever be shut out from your favorite dungeon. For those that want their chance at Legacy items, they can join in on fun tournaments & events. PKers can still get their fix by hunting players or groups that dare to venture into the super profitable zones, or if nobody enters, they can profit off those zones themselves! Guild warfare and politics could become the norm in the high end scene, with players governing themselves... which would help free up staff to run more & more cool events. (and not just PVP events)


I am curious to hear the Green & Blue community's thoughts on this proposal. Would this be something that anyone is interested in?

[PabloEdvardo]

Even without the PvP suggestions, having more server events would be great. Those are a major part of what defined the classic experience for players on Live.

However, at least in this project, the staff resources and the way the staff is organized, permissions wise (unfortunately due to incidents of previous staff abusing their power / position and doing stuff like RMT or whatever) means that active "event" involvement in the current server is extremely low.

If you've noticed, most of the events during green's timeline were all player run, and the only involvement with staff was minimal, again due to much of the restrictions those staff members have. Yellow text achievements was about the most interactive fun we had, and even that went away by Velious (it was a burden on the staff to even collect and input the data for it).

I'm sure many of us would pay for the server, "Legends"-style, if it meant being able to fund staff to be dedicated to events, but for obvious legal reasons, that's probably never going to happen here.

[Chortles Snortles]

i ain't readin all of dat

[Old_PVP]

TL: DR crowd. (understandable) - Primarily PVE server. End to Legacy camps / Lists. More events - legacy earned from events. Normal hot zones & super HOT zones (rotating). Super HOT zones are FFA pvp. Guild war command for raid scene. Totally optional PVP. Huge population all under 1 roof, 1 server, 1 ruleset.

[Chortles Snortles]

still ain't readin
(lol)

[Ripqozko]

Red is dead and pvp sucks, hope that helps gustoo.

[Old_PVP]

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hope that helps

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[Tunabros]

take this pvp talk to red discussion

[Chortles Snortles]

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need new red asap

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[Ghost of Starman]

I support a new red server just so they shut up about it, let the ~10 people interested in EQ PVP play around, it shouldn't eat much bandwidth since literally no one is interested in it and maybe they'd be 5% less obnoxious.