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Old 09-22-2019, 07:19 PM
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If you're min maxing and want to be the best shaman you can be Troll is the best. It's not really opinion, it's fact.
I just dont understand this argument. Iksar have better regen then troll, are not giant, can wear VP robe, does not have troll exp penalty pre velious... How is troll better than iksar? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-22-2019, 07:57 PM
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Iksar and Troll regen and exp penalty is the same though?

It just comes down to JBB and snare clicky for Troll, vs slightly higher AC and Robe for Iksar. The clickies are better for leveling purposes, but the stats for Iksar are better in some end-game situations.
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:40 PM
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Iksar have better regen then troll / does not have troll exp penalty pre velious
Im 99.99% sure the regen is identical, and 90% sure the xp penalty for both is for their whole existence.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:36 PM
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I feel like the utility of the JBB is hard to ignore in favor of a cool robe that you have only a minuscule chance of ever seeing.

Troll size is actually a plus imo. You have Shrink, so you always have a fun party trick loaded.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:53 PM
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anyone who thinks anything but troll is the best race for a shaman is either mentally ill or high
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:59 PM
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Iksar and Troll regen and exp penalty is the same though?
Oh look at that, for years I thought trolls had slower gain in regeneration from level 1 than iksar did, but that is incorrect according to the wiki so nevermind.

Both Iksar and Trolls have higher HP regeneration rates (per tick):

Level 1-19: 4 sitting, 2 feigned, 2 standing
Level 20-49: 6 sitting, 2 feigned, 2 standing
Level 50: 8 sitting, 2 feigned, 2 standing
Level 51-55: 12 sitting, 8 feigned, 6 standing
Level 56-59: 16 sitting, 12 feigned, 10 standing
Level 60: 18 sitting, 14 feigned, 12 standing
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:58 AM
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Ogre shaman is best on a PVP server...the FSI means you can actually gate out vs gank squads.

Troll shaman is best for PVE, especially if you ever plan to raid on shaman. Regen is ALWAYS in effect vs FSI only being used when you are getting hit, which is way less more time you play a shaman.

The JBB makes troll the pick over Iksar.

The snare neck is just a bonus.

If you have a troll with dark-elf guise you can rock a Guardian Robe and look super dope (only reason im mentioning this is someone brough up iksar being able to wear a robe).
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:30 AM
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This thread is supposed to be shamans are better necros stay on topic nerds
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:54 AM
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Old 09-23-2019, 01:27 PM
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Iksar is the sexiest. Nothing else needs to be said.
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