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Old 01-19-2020, 07:49 PM
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I'd like to see this as well. People want to PVP, not endure mind-numbing exp grinds. I still play on Red because of the exp bonus. PVP servers need QoL changes in order to attract people and offset the "scariness" of PVP. Exp loss in the early days of Red severely hurt the population. Global OOC, Yellow text on kills and exp bonus were all good additions, but the server needs even more. Soulbinders would be a good addition on Red since the population is so low.
I think thats partly where red failed, it had a blue mindset. People roll on a pvp server to pvp, its fun.

I disliked Yellow text because it disclosed location of the person killed. Im all for yellow text if you remove that from the text.

Im for a perma xp bonus now that you mention it and MAYBE soulbinders. You dont need soulbinders if the pop is high enough.

I get that its supposed to be a classic server but you need to attract a pop somehow. You could just skeleton crew a new dead server but whats the point. I think its stasis who was saying this, probably right. This is 2020, the classic xp grind is brutal even for vets, and some new people (like i was new to DAOC when i tried out an emu a couple of years ago) who might stick it out because the game itself is cool might not because whoa, the grind. Even more so if there is xp loss, because they cant even enjoy getting better at pvp through doing without losing a quit-inducing insane amount of xp. The xp bonus can be justified in that it will take quite a while longer to level up on red vs blue because of the pvp, and corpse runs will disproportionately affect the new players. Xp loss would be one of the server setups that will make me not even bother to roll on the server because its doomed from the start.

I view a sullon-like server the same way, people will quit if they dont have a fighting chance and thats what you get with no level restriction or fighting zergs/vets with xp loss. The vets know how to play well, and the lure of the lulz of griefing a bunch of level 15s with a level 40 for hours will be too hard to pass on for some. Id try it out of novelty, but i would not bet much on its life expectancy. For people who would like a teams server, why not post ideas to offset all the cons? Again not classic but one way to prevent this off the top of my head would be to add more patrolling guards in the newb areas.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:54 PM
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Yes, please to a new pvp server. Too many veterans with millions of gil and varrying numbers of accounts on blue and red to be competitive for new players. Give the people who dont want to poopsock 5-30 hours a weekend, with 300-400 other people on green, somewhere else new to play.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:02 PM
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FFA
fast exp
increased item drop
accelerated timeline
no csr
no corpse loot
official pvp Leaderboard
daily automated pvp events 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 at the arena(s)

resets and dumps into red.
With P99 code, this would be a banger for sure.
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Told this to Rogean, Nilbog & Menden.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:28 PM
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A teams server with 6-8 levels restriction, maybe i could see that work. Didnt think through all the ramifications, just posting it before i forget about it. The fast levelers would probably try to gatekeep and shit on the 42s-44s, could make for some giant fun battles when word gets out or more grief, i dunno.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:37 PM
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Also, duel pvp is boring. Its ok to have it as a side option, but my most memorable MMO memories are almost all giant battles fighting for something. The EQ halloween event where event mobs were popping in different zones (though a truce was mainly in effect). People fighting over world bosses in WoW. Alliance raiding the throne room in undead city and defending it 50 horde vs 100 alli before BGs were patched in and ruined all that beautiful stuff.

If you cant make it happen because its too resource intensive, ok. But custom mobs popping near teams zone line (or anywhere on a FFA server) and having players fight over it organically would beat duels any day of the week. We had a message warning us that a mob was about to pop during halloween event, so mob isnt killed before factions can get there.
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:56 AM
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I've become a believer in nilbog's idea:

East (Red) VS West (Blue) hardcoded teams

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+/- 4 level restriction beginning at level 2 that perhaps widens the higher level you get, raid zones are FFA.
I have a FEVER...and the only prescription...is teams PVP!

Scrap the 'play nice policy', scrap 'loot and scoot bullshit'...anything goes, except hacking. Teams give even the bluebies a real reason to fight...ZONE CONTROL. Teams are forced to use whatever resources & dungeons they have access to, unless of course if they decide to go behind enemy lines. This enables many of these obscure, unappreciated dungeons to be utilized.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:02 PM
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East vs West sounds interesting.


FFA doe.
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:44 PM
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What happens when I lead the biggest guild on the EAST side and Stasis play's on EAST and I blackball his ass and he doesn't ever get any RAID loot. He's screwed unless he wants to remake on another team?

What about people playing on both teams?! No way to stop this.

FFA is the only way bro's.
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Old 01-21-2020, 02:08 AM
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PVP servers shouldnt be able to gear gap. it kills pvp.
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Old 01-21-2020, 07:42 AM
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As an ACTUAL DAD, I just want a server worthy of ignoring my children over.
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