Game Mechanics: 1 grouping Klandicar

[Funnybone1999]

I am from blue and I have overheard red99 is currently charming Captain Kromzek and 1 grouping a First Brood Dragon. Apparently they are Dictating Captain Kromzek giving him torches and buffs then sending him in on Klandicar and dictating him again when he needs heals end of fight. Captain doesn't get feared or anything so very easy fight. Is this something that is legal to do on blue as well? I would think that p99 would not want to see a first brood dying to a group or less. I know you can not charm Captain Kromzek on live currently.

[Berryman]

Blue has a player agreement for scout https://wiki.project1999.com/Scout_C...ayer_Agreement according to them it is illegal. So if you ever find him up alone and uncontested, it is legal. Even if you win the roll it shouldn't be safe since the turn in is mentioned at the agreement. So if you change the player agreement then it should be legal.

[elwing]

Finding captain and klandicar up and not ar scout roll, is, let's say, improbable...

[Raije1000]

Back when Velious first came out Klandicar dropped CoF, i remember being 14 in 2000 when velious came out and i found out mobs would assist me in Western Wastes if i was on their shared faction. Sont would attack ice burrowers attacking me, and as long as i dealt 1 dmg i could loot. So i found out sont would kill Klandicar, so fires of heaven was prepping to kill Klandicar and i trained him into Sont, landed a stinging swarm (druid) and looted a CoF and Old Brood Talisman which is still on that char now. It was hot fixed a week later to where other factions wouldnt assist. Its something ill never forget, that shit kept me out of Fires of Heaven, lol rip

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Raije1000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back when Velious first came out Klandicar dropped CoF, i remember being 14 in 2000 when velious came out and i found out mobs would assist me in Western Wastes if i was on their shared faction. Sont would attack ice burrowers attacking me, and as long as i dealt 1 dmg i could loot. So i found out sont would kill Klandicar, so fires of heaven was prepping to kill Klandicar and i trained him into Sont, landed a stinging swarm (druid) and looted a CoF and Old Brood Talisman which is still on that char now. It was hot fixed a week later to where other factions wouldnt assist. Its something ill never forget, that shit kept me out of Fires of Heaven, lol rip

Worth it for the lols imo

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Raije1000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back when Velious first came out Klandicar dropped CoF, i remember being 14 in 2000 when velious came out and i found out mobs would assist me in Western Wastes if i was on their shared faction. Sont would attack ice burrowers attacking me, and as long as i dealt 1 dmg i could loot. So i found out sont would kill Klandicar, so fires of heaven was prepping to kill Klandicar and i trained him into Sont, landed a stinging swarm (druid) and looted a CoF and Old Brood Talisman which is still on that char now. It was hot fixed a week later to where other factions wouldnt assist. Its something ill never forget, that shit kept me out of Fires of Heaven, lol rip

This story is 100% worth the consequences of that guild being mad at you.

Congrats for being 14 and discovering such a powerful mechanic.

[ylarik24]

I think its more they rooted the dragons to try to make it classic due to players not pulling mobs to the entrance. Why would it be classic to 1 group klandicar with a dictated mob?

[White_knight]

Originally Posted by Funnybone1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am from blue and I have overheard red99 is currently charming Captain Kromzek and 1 grouping a First Brood Dragon. Apparently they are Dictating Captain Kromzek giving him torches and buffs then sending him in on Klandicar and dictating him again when he needs heals end of fight. Captain doesn't get feared or anything so very easy fight. Is this something that is legal to do on blue as well? I would think that p99 would not want to see a first brood dying to a group or less. I know you can not charm Captain Kromzek on live currently.

Not really an exploit - let em have it. Not like it's going to help the server.

[7thGate]

Yes, this is legal. Its only viable on Red or maybe a quake because that's the only time you're going to find scout up.

It is legal because the giants will fight the dragon on their own, there's no exploit involved in making them fight. I had an ongoing project a few years back to try and kill Sontalak this way using the group of scout giants, as those are available on every scout spawn and pull ~1200 dps as a group once buffed. Galach showed up to watch on one of the attempts, and I talked to Llandris at the time with an outline of the plan to make sure we weren't violating any precedents.

Its surprisingly difficult to get 8 giants buffed, equipped and dropped on target inside the 15 minute despawn time without getting any into summoning range or any enchanters dying. The plan kind of fell apart once it became clear that any AOE damage would cause the giants to chain summon Sontalak off the tank when they're done being feared, making it impossible to sustain tanking for them.

I'm surprised the captain is fear immune actually, all the research I've been able to do implied the level limit was baked into the fear spells directly (unlike 55+ stun immunity, which is hardcoded into the engine) and that dragon fear doesn't have a limit. I haven't been able to test with him for obvious reasons though since I'm on blue.

[ylarik24]

Bump Captain is full immune to spells can not even dispell him but you can dictate him.