Game Mechanics: Faction hits and sorting.

[nilbog]

Nope, the only thing fixed here was where the experience message was displayed on npc death.

Still looking for specifics for how they should be sorted.

[Lazortag]

Just using process of elimination here, I think amax is right that the factions should be listed in descending order of the absolute value of the faction hit (it can't be from highest to lowest or lowest to highest because a negative hit appears between two positive hits in that screenshot, and it can't be in alphabetical order as that screenshot also shows). This would make sense since that automatically puts the NPC's main faction first, and it seems consistent with all the evidence shown.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just using process of elimination here, I think amax is right that the factions should be listed in descending order of the absolute value of the faction hit (it can't be from highest to lowest or lowest to highest because a negative hit appears between two positive hits in that screenshot, and it can't be in alphabetical order as that screenshot also shows). This would make sense since that automatically puts the NPC's main faction first, and it seems consistent with all the evidence shown.

Well, I have a ton of screenshots, but too many other projects going on to research this fully. Feel free to collaborate!

[maximum]

Updated my first reply with the screenshots I could scrounge. If there are more, I'll add them to this reply.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I have a ton of screenshots, but too many other projects going on to research this fully. Feel free to collaborate!

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Screenshots with faction/exp messages:

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Note: some appear to be from late 2001 and even possibly 2002-2003.
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http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/EQ000038.bmp

Notice that they all have the "spacing" that was patched, (e.g., Coalition Trade Folk Ill vs. CoalitionTradeFolkIll). I don't know when that patch came in.

I think Giegue is correct.

[maximum]

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Absolute values, highest to lowest.

[Nirgon]

Sort with a lil math.abs and call it a day?

[Bamzal Sherbet]

listen. here is how it is sorted...

your first assumption was correct - highest adjustment to lowest adjusment

but when two factions have the same adjusment value, then they are sub-sorted alphabetically.

case closed.

[maximum]

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Check out this faction hit message for Drusella and HS.... it's spelled "DrusselSathir"...

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DrusselSathir is a separate bug, I guess. More evidence: http://theclanhouse.yuku.com/reply/3679#.UYfjNW39thM

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DrusselSathir is a separate bug, I guess.

Fixed, pending update.