Game Mechanics: Faction hits and sorting.

[Nirgon]

Maximum approaching max ally faction to me

[Henrik40]

Anything new here? I remember it as most people have stated as well. Main faction being fist, then the rest being listed by the amount of the faction hit, whether it's gained or lowered.

[maximum]

Bump. Order still does not look correct.

http://web.archive.org/web/200106021...ufl.edu/ojako/ :
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Project 1999 Blue:
[Fri Jan 31 21:31:02 2014] Talendor has been slain by Estuk!
[Fri Jan 31 21:31:02 2014] Your faction standing with LeagueofAntonicanBards got better.
[Fri Jan 31 21:31:02 2014] Your faction standing with MayongMistmoore got better.
[Fri Jan 31 21:31:02 2014] Your faction standing with RingofScale could not possibly get any worse.
[Fri Jan 31 21:31:02 2014] Your faction standing with VenrilSathir got better.

[maximum]

Bi-yearly bump.

[maximum]

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Bi-yearly bump.

[maximum]

Bump, still doesn't look right:

[Wed Mar 15 17:35:21 2017] You have slain a gnoll scout!
[Wed Mar 15 17:35:21 2017] Your faction standing with GuardsofQeynos got better.
[Wed Mar 15 17:35:21 2017] Your faction standing with JaggedpineTreefolk got better.
[Wed Mar 15 17:35:21 2017] Your faction standing with MerchantsofQeynos got better.
[Wed Mar 15 17:35:21 2017] Your faction standing with SabertoothsofBlackburrow could not possibly get any worse.
[Wed Mar 15 17:35:21 2017] Your faction standing with SilentFistClan got better.

Should be in this order:

1. Sabertooths of BB (native faction)
2. Guards
3. JP Treefolk
4. Merchants of Q
5. Silent Fist

...assuming all are 1 point of faction gain/loss. This was a mob in Qeynos Hills, if that helps.

[maximum]

Bumpus annualem

[Varren]

Sure would be handy to know native faction for monsters I kill!

[Rygar]

Are you certain the faction hits are just sorted by absolute value? There appear to be exceptions to this in Daldaen's thread:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...hlight=faction

While most everything seem to follow the absolute value rule, here are some exceptions:

[Sat Aug 08 12:59:05 2015] You have slain Councilor Juliah Lockheart! - All Councilors share the same hit value
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:05 2015] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by -30.
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:05 2015] Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV has been adjusted by -7.
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:05 2015] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by 3.
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:05 2015] Your faction standing with Kromrif has been adjusted by 15.

[Sat Aug 08 12:59:28 2015] You have slain an Icewell Sentinel!
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:28 2015] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by -20.
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:28 2015] Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV has been adjusted by -5.
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:28 2015] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by 2.
[Sat Aug 08 12:59:28 2015] Your faction standing with Kromrif has been adjusted by 10.

Should note that earlier posts in his log seem to list the NPC's primary faction last, but these seem to list primary faction first.

I didn't see the Counciller hit on ZAM, but the Icewell Sentinel values are confirmed accurate and there is another post in the comments confirming the same order as Daldaen.

If I had to guess (purely guess without any research), my thought would be they would not want to give indicators back in the day to how large the faction hits were. I would think they would be sorted by the primary key in the database (like how items have Item IDs, perhaps factions have faction IDs).

I noticed that on Kunark dragons where the primary faction is listed, but then LeagueofAntonican Bards and MayongMistmoore are listed above VenrilSathir. Those values happen to be sorted in the correct value order, but I wonder if there are other cases where 'new content' hits are always listed before 'old content' hits. Are there also cases where Kromzek are always listed before Kromrif on secondary faction hits (assuming Kromzek was created first in the database, Kromrif after).

I'll look into this further later.

[maximum]

If a fix is implemented for absolute values, we're most of the way to Classic. My OP screenshots from Live (pre-2003) all show absolute value.

Later on, you can open a new bug post to address Dragons and special cases. Perhaps all of Velious is a special case.