DPS: Monk vs. Warrior vs. Rogue vs. Ranger

[Naethyn]

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There you go. Proof to roll a bard.

[Toxigen]

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is diamondfist still playing or did he donate the char?

[Sonark]

I'm curious why no one ever talks about DEX on this server

[Toxigen]

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I'm curious why no one ever talks about DEX on this server

because its shit

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Sonark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious why no one ever talks about DEX on this server

The formula is straightforward. You get 2 procs per minute on average at 255 DEX. There isn't much to say other than try to get more DEX if you want to proc more. With Avatar + Focus of Spirit, all melee characters will be over 200 DEX.

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As for Naethyn's parse he provided, more than half of his DPS is from the damage shield. Just making sure people understand what is going on there. That is why he has 700 hits while everyone else only has around 400. This isn't normal for a Warrior. Avatar of War hits more often than most mobs too, which means more DS damage.

[Jimjam]

Okay. For fair comparison answer this: Whats a rogue’s dps while tanking AoW?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay. For fair comparison answer this: Whats a rogue’s dps while tanking AoW?

All classes would get roughly the same damage shield DPS on AoW if they simply stood there with auto attack off, and had enough clerics to keep them alive. Classes without parry, block, etc. would deal a bit more damage shield DPS.

The damage shield damage is not Warrior specific, and isn't part of a normal discussion about which class does more or less DPS.

You need multiple classes to apply the damage shields that a Warrior uses. You could easily move the DPS from the Warrior to the players casting the damage shield instead, as the Warrior would be doing zero damage shield damage otherwise.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All classes would get roughly the same damage shield DPS on AoW if they simply stood there with auto attack off, and had enough clerics to keep them alive. Classes without parry, block, etc. would deal a bit more damage shield DPS.

The damage shield damage is not Warrior specific, and isn't part of a normal discussion about which class does more or less DPS.

You need multiple classes to apply the damage shields that a Warrior uses. You could easily move the DPS from the Warrior to the players casting the damage shield instead, as the Warrior would be doing zero damage shield damage otherwise.

Wrong. Other classes won’t survive tanking AoW so don’t get to claim DS dps vs AoW.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. Other classes won’t survive tanking AoS so don’t get to claim DS dps vs AoW.

With enough Clerics any class can survive AoW. You usually just don't have guilds fielding 100+ Clerics.

The Warrior does not add Rogue Backstab damage to their DPS simply because the Warrior is enabling the mob's back to be turned.

The reality is the Warrior can only apply the damage shield DPS via the other classes that cast the damage shields. Those classes would get the damage shield DPS credit.