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[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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The dude looks like Azmodan

Mic's right, Obama is a heartless piece of shit just like Trump. Nevertheless, one of these two men are the president right now and is a kick ass one to boot.

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[skarlorn]

If it's true that America has covertly caused all the problems which have led to these refugees from shit hole countries, maybe those shit hole countries should have done better at resisting unofficial American interests.

Fun fact, it's not wholly our fault. The people of these shit hole countries are equally, at least, to blame.

[skarlorn]

WEW propaganda levels thru the roof right now

Really sad to see ppl leveraging this for political capital. Just as bad as trimp

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's true that America has covertly caused all the problems which have led to these refugees from shit hole countries, maybe those shit hole countries should have done better at resisting unofficial American interests.

Fun fact, it's not wholly our fault. The people of these shit hole countries are equally, at least, to blame.

Yea if you want to blame the elite of other countries -- they are involved. Like in Venezula...

Lot of talk about it lately.

When the NYT, Fox, CNN et al. are all talking about how bad a socialist government is, you should probably get to a place in your life where you realize its time to be skeptical. These networks are propaganda machines, and they didn't just decide to find a random bad government to criticize one day to help their people out.

The truth about Venesula is they are doing remarkably well considering the US, Citibank, Exxonmoble, UK are all trying actively to fuck them over. Their programs have continued to work despite the steep drop in oil prices* (they'll tell you the opposite on CNN). In response, the monied interest of that country that used to own the oil has approached the US -- and you can guess which two of these groups the US wants to work with.

Just like the Contra's -- a barbaric group of yokals supported by the rich in their country -- the opposition groups in Venezuela have been:

burning people alive for being black,

killing random government workers,

hording and destroying food to prove how bad the government is,

trying to get the US to overthrow the democratically elected government there -- so they can reverse all the socialist policies.

The upper middle class and the rich, are the main opponents to the Venezulan government. They cultivated a diverse group of tolerant liberals to oppose the government democratically....LOL just kidding. They got a bunch of hicks that hate people on racial lines to try to overthrow the government by force...what planet are you living on where it works any other way?

Anyway, the government is well over 50% popularity... even by opposition polls. So they boycotted the elections to try to disguise the fact that hardly anyone wants them in power.

But all this fact about the success of their programs in lifting people out of poverty, about the enormous popularity of Chavez's policies and the desire to continue them, it gets in the way of a good story about how socialism ruins everything, and the neoliberals need to take back control to put everything in order again.

* turns our the Chevez government was good at using its oil money to create more permanent non resource-based industry at home...which to me, proves he is a more benevolent type of dictator. Your average dictator doesn't do that... they enrich themselves and think short term. Not "what happens after I die or 100 years from now."

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you had a job and weren’t in law school paid for by my tax dollars I’d consider your opinion

Until then drone strikes

Also fuck Spain. C u real soon poke

i watched about half. very boring game. do your guys know they can cross the midfield?

kidding! im just in it for english humiliation.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's true that America has covertly caused all the problems which have led to these refugees from shit hole countries, maybe those shit hole countries should have done better at resisting unofficial American interests.

Fun fact, it's not wholly our fault. The people of these shit hole countries are equally, at least, to blame.

Its not Americas fault at all.

We have the same deals with Canada as we have with Mexico and Canada is fine.

With every fiber of my being, I believe that the immigrants escaping their shit choice of starting cities, is WHY those starting cities are overun with corruption and poverty.

If they got off their asses and picked up a gun and started fighting back then they would fix their problems and we could all live in harmony.

But because they see a cheaper easier solution, of just moving to america, they chose that one.

That time has come to an end.

Sorry kids when your 18 you gotta move out and fend for yourself.

Not stay at home and play LOL and P99 for free and smoke weed and listen to music like you want.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i watched about half. very boring game. do your guys know they can cross the midfield?

kidding! im just in it for english humiliation.

The 2nd half was way better. We went on the offensive. 1st half strategy sucked

Anyway, I blame you for the loss. C U REAL SOON

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea if you want to blame the elite of other countries -- they are involved. Like in Venezula...

Lot of talk about it lately.

When the NYT, Fox, CNN et al. are all talking about how bad a socialist government is, you should probably get to a place in your life where you realize its time to be skeptical. These networks are propaganda machines, and they didn't just decide to find a random bad government to criticize one day to help their people out.

The truth about Venesula is they are doing remarkably well considering the US, Citibank, Exxonmoble, UK are all trying actively to fuck them over. Their programs have continued to work despite the steep drop in oil prices* (they'll tell you the opposite on CNN). In response, the monied interest of that country that used to own the oil has approached the US -- and you can guess which two of these groups the US wants to work with.

Just like the Contra's -- a barbaric group of yokals supported by the rich in their country -- the opposition groups in Venezuela have been:

burning people alive for being black,

killing random government workers,

hording and destroying food to prove how bad the government is,

trying to get the US to overthrow the democratically elected government there -- so they can reverse all the socialist policies.

The upper middle class and the rich, are the main opponents to the Venezulan government. They cultivated a diverse group of tolerant liberals to oppose the government democratically....LOL just kidding. They got a bunch of hicks that hate people on racial lines to try to overthrow the government by force...what planet are you living on where it works any other way?

Anyway, the government is well over 50% popularity... even by opposition polls. So they boycotted the elections to try to disguise the fact that hardly anyone wants them in power.

But all this fact about the success of their programs in lifting people out of poverty, about the enormous popularity of Chavez's policies and the desire to continue them, it gets in the way of a good story about how socialism ruins everything, and the neoliberals need to take back control to put everything in order again.

* turns our the Chevez government was good at using its oil money to create more permanent non resource-based industry at home...which to me, proves he is a more benevolent type of dictator. Your average dictator doesn't do that... they enrich themselves and think short term. Not "what happens after I die or 100 years from now."

I really hope Vormotos the resident Venezuelan weighs in on this. It’s my opinion that a country without toilet paper and the largest proven oil reserves on earth is in fact poorly managed but maybe you’re right and anywhere a person with melanin makes a mistake it’s somehow in fact Uncle Sam’s fault

[skarlorn]

well, it is america's fault some with latin american countries.

it's very naive to believe the US hasn't been destabilizing regimes and inciting unrest in all of central/south America via branches like the CIA for over 100 years.

Fuck, we used to just send the marines back in the early 20th century.

[skarlorn]

"Internationally, many countries are unstable, dangerous, and have crushing degrees of inequality. This is all the USA's fault."

Some people genuinely believe this.

Likewise, some people believe that America has more inequality in wealth than Russia and China.

It is a strange time indeed, my comrades.