DPS

[ccs88]

Are plate wearers (excluding bards) intended for tanking only in raid/group situations?

I remember I had a warrior back in Kunark and tanking didn't even cross my mind... granted, I was 11 years old and didn't know anything.

Any thoughts appreciated.

[Ele]

The warrior/paladin/shadowknight's primary role is tanking; however, if your group happens to have a hybrid tank and a warrior or two warriors, the extra warrior can stay berserk and drop in a dps weapon rather than aggro weapons for some decent DPS.

[greatdane]

Paladins can put out vaguely decent healing while mana lasts, and shadowknights are pretty good pullers. Both classes can also kite stuff well due to fast, cheap aggro spells. Not that kiting is needed that much at this point in time, but it's an option. Hybrids make excellent off-tanks which becomes relevant in Velious.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hybrids make excellent off-tanks which becomes relevant in Luclin.

It needed fixing.

[greatdane]

Your face needs fixing!

[Vexxed]

a haste capped war dps is on par with monks. only beat by rogs.

Wars will sacrifice dps for proc'ing weapons until epic/vp than they get aggro procs with good ratios and produce great dps. often beating monks.

sks/pals never get there.

[Splorf22]

Well warriors aren't going to outdamage monks at 60. Monks get 16/22 Wu's fists, more attacks due to easier DA/DW checks, and their own superior damage table at 55.

A big part of the problem at 50 is that Monks get like +20 to offense and weapon skills relative to warriors, an advantage that slowly declines as both classes level to 60.

But yeah I agree with the general gist of your post if not all the details.

[Tecmos Deception]

Don't forget flying kick. It's no backstab, but it beats the hell out of regular kick.

[Vexxed]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well warriors aren't going to outdamage monks at 60. Monks get 16/22 Wu's fists, more attacks due to easier DA/DW checks, and their own superior damage table at 55.

A big part of the problem at 50 is that Monks get like +20 to offense and weapon skills relative to warriors, an advantage that slowly declines as both classes level to 60.

But yeah I agree with the general gist of your post if not all the details.

Interesting facts you add.

My post was not speculation though. Its after many many damage parsers. In xp groups and raids.

Either tie with monks or a slightly ahead. Once again this only occurs if I'm at 100% haste. And yes this is at 60.

Monks get upgraded in Velious though and they pull a good deal ahead.

[Splorf22]

Would love to see some parses, at least when I was in VD I don't recall warriors topping the DPS charts much. Of course that was without VP weapons.