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Old 02-20-2016, 07:29 PM
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Trump supporters should know they are supporting a neo-fascist. Trump is a left-winger who has no interest in anything other than "winning" for himself.

What a horrible election cycle. A socialist in Sanders and and Nazi in Trump.

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Old 02-20-2016, 08:14 PM
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Bachelors in political science and you don't even know what a fascist is. Where the fuck did you go to school?

I know how much people enjoy calling people they don't like Hitler, but being a racist and a strong nationalist doesn't make you a fascist. Hitler would have viewed Trump with contempt as a disgusting materialistic capitalist and likely in cahoots with pesky Jew Bolsheviks. Don't forget Hitler and his government ultimately wanted to build a welfare state, with universal healthcare, pensions, massive public works projects, land reform, aid for the impoverished, and cultural engineering designed to promote cohesion, compassion, and sympathy between "true Germans". The extent of Hitler's appreciation for free market economics was his respect for social Darwinism. Beyond that, private enterprise was wholly subservient to the interests of the German state if it was deemed 'parasitic' instead of 'productive'.

A real Fascist or Nazi candidate would be if you mixed Bernie Sanders and Trump, and you got someone who was more socialist than Bernie Sanders, and more ethnocentric/white-nationalist than Trump. And also wanted to murder all the Mexicans and then conquer Mexico.

It's also hilarious that conservatives have become so fucking conservative that Trump is viewed as 'left-wing'. Yes, he is much further to the left than conservatives are now, but at this point so is Ronald Reagan for fuck's sake.
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:20 PM
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:20 PM
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I waver between voting Bernie or Trump. In my heart I hope I have the courage to vote Trump when the election comes, may Allah grant me the strength.

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Old 02-20-2016, 08:25 PM
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Bachelors in political science and you don't even know what a fascist is. Where the fuck did you go to school?

I know how much people enjoy calling people they don't like Hitler, but being a racist and a strong nationalist doesn't make you a fascist. Hitler would have viewed Trump with contempt as a disgusting materialistic capitalist and likely in cahoots with pesky Jew Bolsheviks. Don't forget Hitler and his government ultimately wanted to build a welfare state, with universal healthcare, pensions, massive public works projects, land reform, aid for the impoverished, and cultural engineering designed to promote cohesion, compassion, and sympathy between "true Germans". The extent of Hitler's appreciation for free market economics was his respect for social Darwinism. Beyond that, private enterprise was wholly subservient to the interests of the German state if it was deemed 'parasitic' instead of 'productive'.

A real Fascist or Nazi candidate would be if you mixed Bernie Sanders and Trump, and you got someone who was more socialist than Bernie Sanders, and more ethnocentric/white-nationalist than Trump. And also wanted to murder all the Mexicans and then conquer Mexico.

It's also hilarious that conservatives have become so fucking conservative that Trump is viewed as 'left-wing'. Yes, he is much further to the left than conservatives are now, but at this point so is Ronald Reagan for fuck's sake.
Wow. You're an angry old guy, aren't you?

Let me fill you in on a few points and maybe you can understand them?

It doesn't matter if Hitler would've looked down upon Trump. That is a pretty stupid argument as a matter of fact. Hitler looked down even on other NAZI party members. He had some of them murdered. Of course, history isn't your strong suit, so how would you have known?

Your third paragraph is simply incoherent. If I didn't know better you've had a few Tom Collins too many, or whatever your favorite drink you imbibe in.

Your last paragraph is absolutely laughable. Coming from a socialist, who wrongly thinks Germany is a socialist state to be admired, you can't discern conservative principles in any other way, since they are all so far removed to the right of you. I mean, gosh, it could very well be that Trump is a leftist to your right and he would certainly look like a Reagan from where you sit.

Did you have anything else you wanted to share?
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Wow. You're an angry old guy, aren't you?

Let me fill you in on a few points and maybe you can understand them?

It doesn't matter if Hitler would've looked down upon Trump. That is a pretty stupid argument as a matter of fact. Hitler looked down even on other NAZI party members. He had some of them murdered. Of course, history isn't your strong suit, so how would you have known?

Your third paragraph is simply incoherent. If I didn't know better you've had a few Tom Collins too many, or whatever your favorite drink you imbibe in.

Your last paragraph is absolutely laughable. Coming from a socialist, who wrongly thinks Germany is a socialist state to be admired, you can't discern conservative principles in any other way, since they are all so far removed to the right of you. I mean, gosh, it could very well be that Trump is a leftist to your right and he would certainly look like a Reagan from where you sit.

Did you have anything else you wanted to share?
Hitler looking down on Trump is incidental and is hardly my argument.

My argument consisted of me defining what Fascism actually is to you because you clearly have no idea in spite of paying tens of thousands of dollars for a degree on the subject.

Also I never said Germany was socialist, they aren't. But should we be more like Germany? Absolutely. Your average German citizen is happier, healthier, and just generally better off than your average American citizen. I mean they actually exercise political control over their own government, that's a plus, right?
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:43 PM
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My argument consisted of me defining what Fascism actually is...
Well, no, you failed to do so. That was my point which you failed to get.

Was there something intelligible you wanted to say? Obviously you THINK you know what you're talking about, but I haven't seen someone who is so arrogantly mistaken as yourself.

I don't mind listening, but don't expect the guy with the four year poly-sci degree to cut someone as arrogant as you slack.

Edit: I suppose I should answer your confused question. You ask, " I mean they actually exercise political control over their own government, that's a plus, right?" Yes, ALL governments "exercise political control over their own government" that is what governments do there champ. Did you have another "tautological question" to ask in your effort to look smart? If so, I'll come back in some hours from now and check it out. Peace, dude. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:51 PM
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Is a poli-sci degree from Kentucky Mountain Bible College worth the same as any degree from whatever school Lune went to? feels like bush league vs ivy league right now
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