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Old 05-27-2019, 08:31 PM
Jibartik Jibartik is offline
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Default Lair of the Paw on Green99?

I know very little about paw before and after it became infected and why (lowkey requesting Everquests Mysteries to make a lore video on this zone please [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

From what my drug induced late night farming and internet browsing was able to put together is that not much info is availble about paw before the nerf?

I had no clue what was there before, a lower level dungeon? teens? Did i ever set foot in there before the nerf? I have no idea I cant remember anything anymore thanks to the drugs and everquest.

Here's a few links if you're interested to look at what I found. Also if you know anything and can supply any info for the curious please do because I am curious.

oldp99 threads
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...t=15608&page=2
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=3185
some link from nil (i love finding nilbog in the wild learning about classic eq like we are now thanks to him and you older fans that helped put this together) http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=nnpd2d&s=6

old everlore pages
http://web.archive.org/web/200003010...asp?mapID=1509

http://web.archive.org/web/200306101...asp?mapID=1509

http://web.archive.org/web/200105191...how&BID=201340

http://web.archive.org/web/200105191...ode=35&id=3740

Not sure if we're going to see this, not sure if the info I've linked implies that there is no chance or if nilbog actually pieced it together. Hope smarter people than me can figure it out, my brain is reeling from these drugs and this 18 hour camp that has so far rewarded me with two vendor items.
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:12 PM
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I believe Lesser Fay was once really weird and different too in the olden days.

Also - good findings! Interesting stuff pre-Kunark Live was.
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Old 05-28-2019, 08:52 AM
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Granite, Marble or some kind of stone. Hey can we get a stone design for this forum?
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Old 07-24-2019, 02:02 AM
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I know very little about paw before and after it became infected and why (lowkey requesting Everquests Mysteries to make a lore video on this zone please [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

From what my drug induced late night farming and internet browsing was able to put together is that not much info is availble about paw before the nerf?

I had no clue what was there before, a lower level dungeon? teens?
Splitpaw was changed twice during Classic, the first time was really early in the game (like 5-6 months after it was released) and then again right before Kunark came out. The first change was the more significant one, with a big increase in the level range of the dungeon, and then the second change increased it a bit further in the deeper areas of the dungeon I think.

I can't remember much about the exact content during each iteration, but from what I recall, the earliest form of Splitpaw was designed for people to start going there in the early/mid teens. The dungeon was first changed because it was thought of as too out-of-the-way for that level range, with the adjacent (and eventually extremely overcrowed) South Karana being a hunting destination for higher level people who found Splitpaw to be generally useless by then. The change to Splitpaw gave people more things to hunt in this overcrowed hotspot area, although groups rarely went far in because of the difficulty and lack of enough highly desired loot.

The second change to the dungeon was probably to add more content into the game for high level people who were extremely overcrowed in Lower Guk and Sol B at that point. Unfortunately the place never really took off because it was generally considered to not be worth it. People preferred to just wait their turn in the more popular spots. It was usually still just the front area of the dungeon that was regularly camped.

I'd definitely like to see more concrete info if someone can find it! The earliest form of the zone in particular seems like something that nobody really remembers exactly anymore.

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I believe Lesser Fay was once really weird and different too in the olden days.
More info on this would also be great!
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:15 AM
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Unfortunately the place never really took off because it was generally considered to not be worth it. People preferred to just wait their turn in the more popular spots.
Some things never change, even 20 years later.
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:26 AM
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I believe Lesser Fay was once really weird and different too in the olden days.

Also - good findings! Interesting stuff pre-Kunark Live was.
It had a forces of Fear invasion, much like Kithicor is infested with Hate.

Unlike Fay Kithicor never reset to a safer state. It would be a lovely safe teen zone if it wasn't for the ass hole Dev that then went and inserted the Brownie Scouts for a temple sol ro era quest update
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:10 AM
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It had a forces of Fear invasion, much like Kithicor is infested with Hate.

Unlike Fay Kithicor never reset to a safer state. It would be a lovely safe teen zone if it wasn't for the ass hole Dev that then went and inserted the Brownie Scouts for a temple sol ro era quest update
My memory of Fay was there was one unicorn that was there before the invasion or whatever it was?

I have not been able to confirm this and assume I just was wrong. But I thought that about the wee harvester until I found it a couple years ago.

Any clues about what I might be thinking about?
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:39 AM
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My memory of Fay was there was one unicorn that was there before the invasion or whatever it was?

I have not been able to confirm this and assume I just was wrong. But I thought that about the wee harvester until I found it a couple years ago.

Any clues about what I might be thinking about?
Isn't that the state it's in right now? The unicorn is Equestrielle. S/he was corrupted in the Cazic Thule invasion that happened during PoP (I think? Maybe SoL/GoD?). That was the first change to Lfay that I know of, but I started EQ right after Kunark launched, so maybe there is some other change that I'm unaware of. As for Splitpaw it was answered pretty well in that necro, and it's surprising no one answered for 2 months. It used to be low level and they changed it because it was miles away from any town is my guess.

I don't recall brownie scouts being added because of the invasion specifically, but they definitely ruin most of the zone regardless. Then again the zone is pretty obviously not viable to begin with, like many other EQ zones that are clearly flawed for leveling. I remember leveling my first P99 char there just for the hell of it and it was pretty tough.
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:33 AM
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I found a screenshot of the inside of the old Paw!

https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...nshots/paw.JPG

I was crawling around looking for other things at the time.

Edit: another!

https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...itpawgnoll.JPG

The old EQLizer site has a lot of old screens including a few from beta:

https://web.archive.org/web/19991012...reenshots.html

Also has a tiny bit of zone info about the old Paw:

https://web.archive.org/web/19991013.../zone/paw.html

GUISE I FOUND A MAP OMG!

https://web.archive.org/web/19991013...q/maps/Paw.GIF
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:56 AM
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Apparently the named here dropped something called 'snakeskin armor', unique to Paw:

https://web.archive.org/web/19991013...snakeskin.html
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