<ST> cucking out of Green99 due to Kingdom taking their merbz

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe next time don't join a UN during classic and Kunark. If you guys would have actually tried during these expansions instead of just taking welfare pixels one weekend a month, maybe you would have been able to learn how to be competent and actually compete for ST keys when Velious arrived.

By joining the UN, you guys allowed your leadership who never really cared to compete stay in leadership roles. Rather than having social pressures mount on them to step down to lesser roles as losses piled up, you guys continued to just soak up the soup kitchen pixels until it was too late.

This should be a lesson to those who are upset or were actually in these guilds. Don't allow the same leadership to guide you next time, and don't join a UN until sleeper is woke. You guys dug your own grave by allowing leaders who were more concerned about their blue guilds than actually running a competent guild.

Lastly, claiming Seal Team was scared of competition is LAUGHABLE. You guys mailed it in DURING CLASSIC and you stuck by it until the game was practically over.

Grats Seal Team on winning Green. Everyone else has a few years to think about their mistakes before p99 yellow.

[Ooloo]

You can't cast aspersions about people being too obsessed with the game and have a signature on the forum announcing that you are officially RETIRED I mean cmon

[Tunabros]

shut up baler

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't cast aspersions about people being too obsessed with the game and have a signature on the forum announcing that you are officially RETIRED I mean cmon

I did give all my stuff away today. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol its not silly at all but whatever. What victim mentality? I don't think they are out to get ME in particular. We are talking about 1 guild making the decision to remove content for the rest of the players on server. Also, what do you mean ALL of the bigger guilds? It's just 1 guild in question at the moment. As far as playing the game "normally", I think that's a matter of perspective. It certainly doesn't have to be the normal mind set but it ends up always being the case for the reasons I've already stated.

These types of players cannot simply finish the progression of their character and move on, they have to maintain their exclusiveness forever, their names on a list on a wiki page as being the only ones to have xx item or some stupid shit just to feed their e-ego. Who do you think goes on the wiki page and edits the names in on the list of players with Shroud of Longevity? Someone in Castle? Nah.. they are doing it, Lmao. Its an ego thing mate, plain and simple.

You have a victim mentality because it seems that your first assumption is that the primary reason why Sleeper is awoken is to somehow spite players in a lesser guild lol. Why isn't your first assumption people want to wake the Sleeper because it is a cool event, and a once per server event? Not a lot of games have a mechanic like Sleeper, so of course people want to experience it. Let's play devils advocate and say all members of Seal Team did want to spite as many people as possible on the server. It doesn't matter, because they just played the game as intended, following the rules. Can you spitefully run around Norrath, abiding by the rules? No.

All the big guilds on a server contribute to the Sleeper awaking, not just the guild to do it. Why? Because the big guilds are all competing to see who gets keyed first. It isn't like Kingdom members didn't want Warder loot.

Waking the Sleeper is playing the game normally. Sleeper was scripted to only be awakened once by the P99 developers, there isn't a bug with his script, and there aren't any PnP rules against awaking him. Pretty sure playing the game by the rules, as intended by the developers, is playing the game normally.

Exclusivity is one of the perks that P99 has that other MMO's don't. You can easily play any other modern game if you want to just progress like everyone else, get the exact same items as everyone else, and quit in a few months like everyone else. Exclusivity is something that keeps P99 alive, and you shouldn't be so quick to try and remove it. Just look at how quickly people lose interest with the Daybreak progression servers. They did exactly what you want, made Everquest instanced in the classic timeline. People get what they want quickly and leave. It's really that simple.

It is honestly the height of silliness to want P99 to be like a free version of the Daybreak progression servers. That will be the death of P99, because it will follow the same trend as the progression servers. People get their loot in a few months and leave.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have a victim mentality because it seems that your first assumption is that the primary reason why Sleeper is awoken is to somehow spite players in a lesser guild lol. Why isn't your first assumption people want to wake the Sleeper because it is a cool event, and a once per server event? Not a lot of games have a mechanic like Sleeper, so of course people want to experience it. Let's play devils advocate and say all members of Seal Team did want to spite as many people as possible on the server. It doesn't matter, because they just played the game as intended, following the rules. Can you spitefully run around Norrath, abiding by the rules? No.

All the big guilds on a server contribute to the Sleeper awaking, not just the guild to do it. Why? Because the big guilds are all competing to see who gets keyed first. It isn't like Kingdom members didn't want Warder loot.

Waking the Sleeper is playing the game normally. Sleeper was scripted to only be awakened once by the P99 developers, there isn't a bug with his script, and there aren't any PnP rules against awaking him. Pretty sure playing the game by the rules, as intended by the developers, is playing the game normally.

Exclusivity is one of the perks that P99 has that other MMO's don't. You can easily play any other modern game if you want to just progress like everyone else, get the exact same items as everyone else, and quit in a few months like everyone else. Exclusivity is something that keeps P99 alive, and you shouldn't be so quick to try and remove it. Just look at how quickly people lose interest with the Daybreak progression servers. They did exactly what you want, made Everquest instanced in the classic timeline. People get what they want quickly and leave. It's really that simple.

It is honestly the height of silliness to want P99 to be like a free version of the Daybreak progression servers. That will be the death of P99, because it will follow the same trend as the progression servers. People get their loot in a few months and leave.

Well said.


Also you guys should have trained the warder onto the clear squad u guys really dropped the ball.

[Chocolope]

Sorry you still don't got

[cd288]

Oh man DSM couldn’t contain himself in the discussion forum thread so he joined in here too lol

[Convict]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have a victim mentality because it seems that your first assumption is that the primary reason why Sleeper is awoken is to somehow spite players in a lesser guild lol.

It was. That doesn't make it a "victim mentality" just stating the facts kid

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why isn't your first assumption people want to wake the Sleeper because it is a cool event, and a once per server event?

lol is that a serious question? Timing dude.. timing. If it wasn't woken for another 4-5 months sure that's a valid assumption/argument. But to do it soon as Guild B gets enough keys to start competing and possibly getting a contested kill or 2 and get warding loot though? What the fuck are you on about my guy? You are deluded forreal.

Didn't read rest of that long ass post after seeing first 2 batshit crazy sentences so not even going to address it.

[Lewkeng]

why are guilds so fucking scared of competition in ST? i never understood this part of it...once a guild trys to compete for warders, they wake it... its a big time bitch move. say what you want... its part of the game blah blah people want to experience the 2min of him wrecking a few zones.. wow exciting.. i dont even play on green, but its pointless to wake him once another guild comes in the zone.