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Old 08-13-2012, 09:16 AM
Cippofra Cippofra is offline
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off hand is a proc that has a higher chance of proccing depending on dual wield skill. if you have a 20 delay off hand, every 2 seconds you have a chance to strike depending on dual wield skill level
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:49 AM
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Because you may lose your balance when trying to swing both weapons simultaneously? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Seriously though.. like i said dual wield may work independantly from the main hand off a random number generator or something.. but from what ive read i understand it differently.. just my personal interpretation of the text [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
If the swing-check for the off-hand is disconnected from the off-hand delay, then a Sebilite Croaking Dirk (10/18) should, over-time, swing on average the same number of times as a Wurmslayer (25/40) in the offhand should it not?

This is not what is observed. The faster weapon will produce more attack rounds in a sizable sample of off-hand attacks, with either an actual weapon or non-weapon equipped in the primary.

If the off-hand swing check is the same regardless of delay, how is this possible?
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:39 AM
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off hand is a proc that has a higher chance of proccing depending on dual wield skill. if you have a 20 delay off hand, every 2 seconds you have a chance to strike depending on dual wield skill level
Well I'm convinced.. Thanks man you cleared that up pretty quickly.. i'm always happy to learn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is all you needed to say Arrisard.. i think you were just messin with me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:53 AM
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i think you were just messin with me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Only a little.

Besides, I find actual discussion more valuable and respectful than simple statements of "No, you're wrong". I could very well be missing some piece of vital information I have over looked that has completely skewed my observations. It wouldn't be the first time.

I also like to hear myself talk.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:39 PM
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I prefer fist/sos on my 59 monk. Some parses from the verix clear a min ago. Problem is there's a 1 lvl gap, and my haste is better. We were pulling like 4-5 at a time, so sometimes we were on diff mobs...I'll redo it later with a closer comparison
Crappyfeet = Fist/SOS // cof/rbg/epic/59
Maxpower = AC/SOS // Skybelt/epic/60


/G Decayed prisoner in 60s, 6k @105dps --- Crappyfeet 2k @60dps (37.31%) --- Maxpower 2k @39dps (36.23%) --- Kabann 2k @47dps (26.46%) --- Taelara 0k @0dps (0%)

/G Decayed soldier in 44s, 7k @163dps --- Crappyfeet 2k @58dps (34.82%) --- Maxpower 2k @54dps (33.08%) --- Kabann 2k @56dps (32.1%)

/G Decayed soldier in 30s, 6k @199dps --- Kabann 2k @68dps (31.95%) --- Maxpower 2k @61dps (30.61%) --- Crappyfeet 1k @46dps (22.26%) --- Zararn 1k @41dps (15.18%)

/G Decayed soldier in 35s, 6k @174dps --- Maxpower 2k @50dps (29.02%) --- Crappyfeet 2k @64dps (28.53%) --- Kabann 2k @52dps (28.43%) --- Zararn 1k @27dps (14.02%)

/G Verix Kyloxs remains in 55s, 6k @118dps --- Crappyfeet 2k @53dps (34.13%) --- Kabann 2k @49dps (33.2%) --- Zararn 1k @29dps (19.56%) --- Maxpower 1k @16dps (13.11%) --- Taelara 0k @0dps (0%) - max slowed obv.

/G Decayed soldier in 134s, 8k @57dps --- Crappyfeet 3k @26dps (36.41%) --- Kabann 3k @46dps (35.31%) --- Maxpower 2k @17dps (24.01%) --- Zararn 0k @22dps (4.27%) --- Taelara 0k @0dps (0%) --- Lekter 0k @0dps (0%) - Both of us slowed.

/G Decayed soldier in 48s, 7k @156dps --- Crappyfeet 3k @55dps (34.16%) --- Kabann 2k @54dps (33.43%) --- Maxpower 2k @50dps (32.41%)
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:26 PM
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Generally, for pure dps:

If you see a monk using 1h from L10 to epic, either s/he is getting skillups or not paying attention. Period.

If you see an epic-ed monk with an AC in the mainhand (as day-to-day weapon), s/he has never parsed. Period.
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