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Old 12-14-2020, 10:50 PM
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Default Iksar is the GOAT tank

+8 regen more standing over other races(Besides troll)
+35 additional AC (raises your softcap)
+can still hit 255 str/sta/dex in velious gear
-needs to apply lotion often

I mean 12 standing regen with a softcap boosting additional free 35 AC, come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
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Old 12-14-2020, 10:51 PM
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come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
hard to level with 20% exp penalty, hated everywhere, hard to gear out until velious
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:30 AM
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I mean 12 standing regen with a softcap boosting additional free 35 AC, come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
That 2hs animation
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:58 AM
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There are a few reasons:

1. For solo minded warriors, Iksars can't use quite a few useful warrior clickies. Warriors need clickies/proc weapons to make up for their lack of spellcasting. Honestly Gnome warriors have the best solo edge with their race specific, cheap, rechargable 40% Haste Buff clickie.

2. For raid minded warriors, none of that is going to matter. Avatar of War, for example, has a minimum damage of 900 or so, regardless of your AC. Half of the time you wont even be regenerating, as you will hit 100% HP quite often from all of the Complete Heals you will be getting.

3. Like Tunabros said, limited ability to gear until Velious. This turns a lot of people off, especially people who haven't played a warrior and just want to try it out. It is a hassle to faction up and line up multiquests for Velious armor. It is way easier to just gear up in EC, play the warrior for a bit, get bored, and liquidate it.

4. Faction problems, as Tunabros mentions. Iksars are great as Monks/Necromancers because both of those classes have built in ways to sell to merchants regardless of faction. Warriors need clickies to modify their faction quickly. Most people can't afford something like AoN, and the cheaper options tend to be more limited, either in faction adjustment or in number of uses.

5. If you want to Min/Max, go Ogre for Frontal Stun Immunity. This maximizes you agro generation by preventing gaps in weapon swings caused by stuns. They can also use all the nice plate that Iksars can't use, and have way better starting stats.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:28 AM
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. They can also use all the nice plate that Iksars can't use, and have way better starting stats.
Every bit of that "nice plate" is obsolete compared to the plate that Iksar can, in fact, wear.

Does kind of suck to miss out on the Invisibility click BP and legs, though.
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Old 12-30-2020, 12:50 PM
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Every bit of that "nice plate" is obsolete compared to the plate that Iksar can, in fact, wear.

Does kind of suck to miss out on the Invisibility click BP and legs, though.
You are correct, Iksars can wear the best plate the game has to offer, and I never said otherwise[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The question OP asked is why we don't see a lot of Iksar warriors. Most people prefer to twink a new Warrior in the "obsolete" plate because it is much easier to get, and cheaper than a full set of Thurg armor. It is a hassle for most people to level up a new toon, faction them up in Thurg, and then spend a little over 30k for a full Thurg set, including legs and BP. On top of that, the Thurg armor is no drop, which means they can't sell their gear if they get bored of their Warrior twink. That is one big reason why people do not roll Iksar.

It is not about whether or not an Iksar can get BiS gear, it is more about the tendency for people to make alts, get bored of them, and then sell the alt's gear to make a different alt. This is also a reason why Iksar Monks/Necromancers are so popular. They don't have any real item restrictions, so they are just 100% better than the other races who can roll Monk/Necromancer due to Iksar Regeneration.
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Old 12-30-2020, 11:33 PM
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The question OP asked is why we don't see a lot of Iksar warriors.
And then you talked about a lot of things that don't matter as pros for not picking Iksar, while talking about how the positive qualities in picking Iksar don't matter anyways.

It's pretty jarring.

On the other hand, in replying to me, you're actually making valid points.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:59 AM
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:03 AM
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No Rubicite fashion questing either. GG.
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:16 PM
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Iksar wars are dumb unless you just love the look of them.

No invis/shrink clicky sucks, terrible combat animations. Regen isn’t a big deal, bandaging/blood points takes care of that. The ac difference is unnoticeable when it matters. Can’t hide, can’t sneak, hated everywhere. Just giving up so much for getting so little.
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