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Old 06-19-2014, 04:39 PM
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It's a bible for libertarians, republicans, objectivists, and all other temporarily embarrassed millionaires everywhere. If I were locked in a room with a gun and 3 bullets, Ayn Rand, Adolf Hitler, and Osama Bin Laden, I'd shoot Ayn Rand 3 times in the vagina and then me and Hitler would beat her to death while Osama cheered.

Ultimately it's an appeal for neo-fuedalism and the idea that the 'elite minds' carry all the rest of us poor, dirty, lazy, incompetent motherfuckers on their shoulders.
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I'm pretty sure Rand was on Social Security when she died, too. She should have bootstrapped her way through it so she wasn't such an evil parasite sucking the wealth from those hard working rich folk.
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:43 PM
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I made a facebook post about how blown my mind is by this news and my cousin responded:

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Objectivism and libertarianism are *far* superior morally and intellectually to, say, socialism, which has been one of the greatest forces for human misery since the dark ages. Making a trilogy from Atlas Shrugged with Ron Paul is still silly, though.

God it feels bad to have a cousin who's so fucking retarded/insane
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure Rand was on Social Security when she died, too. She should have bootstrapped her way through it so she wasn't such an evil parasite sucking the wealth from those hard working rich folk.
To play Devil's Advocate briefly, there's nothing inherently wrong with taking advantage of services that one has become entitled to. Disagreeing with a policy does not preclude utilization of that policy. Example: if one thinks fire departments are a waste, they can still call the trucks because they have paid their taxes towards them.

That said, yes it was endlessly ironic for her to end that way.
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To play Devil's Advocate briefly, there's nothing inherently wrong with taking advantage of services that one has become entitled to. Disagreeing with a policy does not preclude utilization of that policy. Example: if one thinks fire departments are a waste, they can still call the trucks because they have paid their taxes towards them.

That said, yes it was endlessly ironic for her to end that way.
It's one thing to disagree with it. It's another to build your career publishing fiction and non-fiction expressly with the purpose of arguing against it, convincing millions of people that it's bad, and then cheerfully take it when the time comes.
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It's one thing to disagree with it. It's another to build your career publishing fiction and non-fiction expressly with the purpose of arguing against it, convincing millions of people that it's bad, and then cheerfully take it when the time comes.
To an extent. Extremely ironic, but she was forced to contribute to these services, and thus entitled to use them to the full extent of that entitlement. Yes, she was extreme, and it's an "lol" looking back at the situation, but there's no moral or ethical breach. She got what she paid for essentially. Even if she didn't want to buy it.
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I find this pretty awesome. The movie is about growing government corruption and regulations to businesses, and the erosion of the free market to unconstitutional federal regulations, which is actually happening today. To try and deny that many of the things she talked about in this book are actually happening today is absurd. But it takes a special kind of stupid to say this book is a bunch of bull when you most likely didn't read it, or even watched the movie, and/or are willingly ignorant of what goes on in American politics today. Keep spewing your party politics and baseless vitriol.
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growing government corruption and regulations to businesses, and the erosion of the free market to unconstitutional federal regulations, which is actually happening today. To try and deny that many of the things she talked about in this book are actually happening today is absurd. But it takes a special kind of stupid to say this book is a bunch of bull when you most likely didn't read it, or even watched the movie, and/or are willingly ignorant of what goes on in American politics today. Keep spewing your party politics and baseless vitriol.
I read this book because I had a right leaning/open-minded/ignorant phase in college and this girl I was into was a fucking wacko objectivist. I also read Fountainhead.

You're imagining things. Ever since the Reagan administration we've seen free market policies bolstered, not eroded. The private sector has been doing exceptionally well, while labor has spent the last decade making one concession after another. And much of the government corruption is fueled by business interests, through excessive campaign financing. In the USA you can currently purchase political power, and raising taxes has become a third rail issue.

Among our peers in the world's most developed economies, we have the most right-leaning political system by far. Yet we also consistently under perform in almost every metric for human development and general well-being. You hate the government, and you think everyone poorer than you is a leech. I can only guess how much you make in a year, but what's funny is it's definitely enough for Ayn Rand to classify you as expendable.
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I find this pretty awesome. The movie is about growing government corruption and regulations to businesses, and the erosion of the free market to unconstitutional federal regulations, which is actually happening today. To try and deny that many of the things she talked about in this book are actually happening today is absurd. But it takes a special kind of stupid to say this book is a bunch of bull when you most likely didn't read it, or even watched the movie, and/or are willingly ignorant of what goes on in American politics today. Keep spewing your party politics and baseless vitriol.

Taxes are tyranny, our freedom to live in the year 1800 where people survived autonomously and without any help from the government on enormous tracts of farm land is being eroded by liberal fascism, and there's a race war coming buy ammo sheeple

PS you say "regulating businesses" like it's a bad thing. Have you thought about how unregulated business has played a huge part in the government corruption that is such a problem in America today?
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I read this book because I had a right leaning/open-minded/ignorant phase in college and this girl I was into was a fucking wacko objectivist. I also read Fountainhead.

You're imagining things. Ever since the Reagan administration we've seen free market policies bolstered, not eroded. The private sector has been doing exceptionally well, while labor has spent the last decade making one concession after another. And much of the government corruption is fueled by business interests, through excessive campaign financing. In the USA you can currently purchase political power, and raising taxes has become a third rail issue.

Among our peers in the world's most developed economies, we have the most right-leaning political system by far. Yet we also consistently under perform in almost every metric for human development and general well-being. You hate the government, and you think everyone poorer than you is a leech. I can only guess how much you make in a year, but what's funny is it's definitely enough for Ayn Rand to classify you as expendable.
Very well written response.
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