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Old 10-06-2011, 10:35 AM
PlayervsDen PlayervsDen is offline
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Default Melee Vs Caster

so im trying to decide whether im going to start my main melee class at begining of red99 or if im gonna start a caster to farm and pave the way for the melee class.

gimme ur 2 cents on what i should possibly do.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:37 AM
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don't underestimate the exp rate. most people don't have it in them to have a separate main and a farming toon at lvl 50 in any reasonable amount of time.

if you want to main a melee class, play a melee class. try to get raiding asap and you can get geared without having a lot of money.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:00 AM
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Yeah. Leveling is going to take so long that many will give up on their plans of leveling an easymode class to 50, farming a bunch of melee gear, and then making their rogue or whatever.

Leveling will take much longer than it did at the launch of p99. There were a few things back then that allowed people to level too fast, such as the fact that SolA was way too good XP. With the current XP rate for old-world content, 1-50 is estimated to take an average of about 7 days /played if you don't waste your time. You can probably double that on a PvP server since you'll waste a lot of time PvPing or getting ganked while leveling, which not only interrupts your grinding but also costs you XP when you die.

So if we estimate 10-15 days /played for most people, and we assume 5 hours a day to be the average amount people put in, those average peeps are gonna take somewhere around two months to reach 50. Then you have to camp items for your melee character, and then you can start leveling a class that takes much longer due to being pretty much incapable of soloing.

If you want to hit the high levels months after everyone else, go right ahead. It'll suck. Casters and guilded melees will be in raid gear by the time you reach level 45 on your melee. You're better off just starting off with your melee class, toughing out the weak early levels, and hitting the high levels just a bit later than the easymode rollers. If you have a guild, leveling a melee probably isn't even much slower the first time around. If you play mostly by yourself, it'll be a bit tougher but not at all impossible.

If they code resists the classic way, 90-100ish MR is fully viable for PvP. Most melee classes can get this with gear you can obtain around level 30, assuming someone is selling wolf's eye jewelry by then. Decent weapons aren't too hard to get, either; buy an exe axe or dark reaver from whoever claims Guk first, or get a BIBS. Rogues can quest for burning rapier. Weapons like dragoon dirk and silvery war axe are also totally fine until you hit the upper levels and can get better stuff. There's not an enormous difference between mid-level and high-level droppable gear that early, with a select few exceptions like froggy crown and such. Most of the resist gear people will wear at 50 is stuff you can get in your 20s, and it'll be a good while before diamond jewelry becomes available to the common player since you won't have rogues running around pickpocketing fear golems and resetting the zone like on VZTZ.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:51 AM
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You will want to main a melee. Most the farmable stuff on caster you can still farm on melee once you are high enough level. Also as melee you will get all the need drops as opposed to having to greed things for your "twink" Not to mention once 46+ you can raid planes for better melee gear.

If you want to melee, just melee. Beginning will suck for you but thats 1/2 the fun isnt it?
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:19 PM
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Ok here's an idea not presented. You level a druid and your friend levels a druid. Then you take turns PLing and protecting each others melee class to high level.

Ok so they can be attacked by someone 8 levels above them and the 50 druid can't do crap about it. Oh but wait! That druid can heal the meleer and the jerk that attacked is SOL.

I'm sure this is the first anyone has thought about this.

Edit: Just realized this may not be possible. Is there coding that will not allow you to buff someone 8 levels below you? How about healing?
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:24 PM
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I am with those that suggest playing the class you want from the start. Anyone starting out as a caster just so they can have an easier time when they do make their main is lame.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:40 PM
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Ok here's an idea not presented. You level a druid and your friend levels a druid. Then you take turns PLing and protecting each others melee class to high level.

Ok so they can be attacked by someone 8 levels above them and the 50 druid can't do crap about it. Oh but wait! That druid can heal the meleer and the jerk that attacked is SOL.

I'm sure this is the first anyone has thought about this.
It'll still take a really long time and you'd depend entirely on your friend. You might even just be better off with one rolling a melee and the other rolling a support class and then leveling up like that the old-fashioned way. Then you reroll and swap roles when it's time to make alts.

Whatever way you look at it, it'll take longer than if you just level a melee up the first time around. If you want to play a rogue, play a rogue. Leveling a class you don't want to play all the way to 50 just to make the rogue a little easier is just gonna burn you out and you'd still not have your high-level melee until long after everyone else has hit 50.
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