Quillmane Rules?

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you really want to get technical and lawyer-ish about the whole thing then quillmane is actually a triggered mob. It has a chance to appear every time the instant you kill a correct target. hence triggered. Those mobs are triggers rather than placeholders. What was the rule on anything triggered again? 20 minutes to kill.

How about do the easy thing and wait for the camp to open up instead of being a douche about it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um, no... not triggered. Triggered is a turn in that 100% spawns the mob. Example would be Ixi. You turn in scroll, mob spawns...

Random PH is not "triggered".

Krey

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Kreylyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um, no... not triggered. Triggered is a turn in that 100% spawns the mob. Example would be Ixi. You turn in scroll, mob spawns...

Random PH is not "triggered".

Krey

To trigger ( verb version ): cause (an event or situation) to happen or exist.

Yep - I agree with Cath, dont be a douche about this camp if you arnt doing the work

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Kreylyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Triggered is a turn in that 100% spawns the mob.

Maybe in your world. If that were true guilds would not have 20min to kill overseer of air and hand of veeshan when they are TRIGGERED by killing the previous mob.

Keep making stuff up

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe in your world. If that were true guilds would not have 20min to kill overseer of air and hand of veeshan when they are TRIGGERED by killing the previous mob.

Keep making stuff up

Your giving different examples to back up your faulty logic.

Triggered is when an expected and repeatable reaction occurs. Some mobs are triggered by killing a specific mob as part of the process to trigger them. IN this case it's still 100%. If not, then it's not triggered... it's random.

Additionally there are rules in place that prevent people from being jerks and holding up triggered mobs by spawning them and never killing them. That's why a completely separate rule was made for how long you have to kill a mob that is triggered. This rule does not determine if a mob is or is not triggered. Triggered has to be established first for this rule to apply.

Killing a PH that may "randomly" spawn a named does not make the named a "triggered" mob. YOUR action of killing ph does not spawn the named. It's random. That's why it's not triggered. You didn't MAKE it spawn. You can not specifically do an action to make it' spawn again 100%.

If that was the case, every mob out there is "triggered" and all you have to do is AE an entire zone to claim all mobs were "triggered" by you, and thus you have 20 mins to kill them all again.

Another example since it's hard for you... A turn in to LoIO spawns a specific mob every time for monk epic. You kill that mob and every time 2 more mobs spawn. Those are "triggered" mobs. It's 100% repeatable. It happens every time you take the same actions.

If the result is random, they system determined the reaction and NOT you. thus not triggered.


Krey

[Man0warr]

Yeah but you have a 0% chance to trigger Quillmane if you aren't killing PHs, so if you go around trying to snipe him when others are doing the work, your a gigantic douchebag.

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Kreylyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your giving different examples to back up your faulty logic.

Triggered is when an expected and repeatable reaction occurs. Some mobs are triggered by killing a specific mob as part of the process to trigger them. IN this case it's still 100%. If not, then it's not triggered... it's random.

Additionally there are rules in place that prevent people from being jerks and holding up triggered mobs by spawning them and never killing them. That's why a completely separate rule was made for how long you have to kill a mob that is triggered. This rule does not determine if a mob is or is not triggered. Triggered has to be established first for this rule to apply.

Killing a PH that may "randomly" spawn a named does not make the named a "triggered" mob. YOUR action of killing ph does not spawn the named. It's random. That's why it's not triggered. You didn't MAKE it spawn. You can not specifically do an action to make it' spawn again 100%.

If that was the case, every mob out there is "triggered" and all you have to do is AE an entire zone to claim all mobs were "triggered" by you, and thus you have 20 mins to kill them all again.

Another example since it's hard for you... A turn in to LoIO spawns a specific mob every time for monk epic. You kill that mob and every time 2 more mobs spawn. Those are "triggered" mobs. It's 100% repeatable. It happens every time you take the same actions.

If the result is random, they system determined the reaction and NOT you. thus not triggered.


Krey

This is your opinion. Go ahead and try your logic with a group of people that have quillmane covered. I'd love to see how you end up. Hint: I've seen these kind of situations enforced on quillmane and you are going to have a bad time.

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but you have a 0% chance to trigger Quillmane if you aren't killing PHs, so if you go around trying to snipe him when others are doing the work, your a gigantic douchebag.

Just for the record, NOTHING about my statements have been about how douchey the actions of enforcing your FTE rights are. Just what those rights are.

It's like free speech. Protesting and yelling at funerals is also right up there in that "Your a complete douche!" aspect. The "rules" allow you to do it. Doesn't mean it's socially "right". Be prepared to deal with the consequences.

Krey

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is your opinion. Go ahead and try your logic with a group of people that have quillmane covered. I'd love to see how you end up. Hint: I've seen these kind of situations enforced on quillmane and you are going to have a bad time.

My experience is that FTE was enforced. Exactly as Sirken stated it would be.

Your experience may differ. Doesn't make the rule on the mob being FTE different though.

/shrug

Krey

[Ezalor]

why are you arguing about this?

if you zone into SK, and 4 people are doing QM, you have a very small chance of even getting FTE by sitting at just 1 spawn. if you do you will likely be feathered leggings, and make yourself look like a douche

[GnashingOfTeeth]

I zoned into SK a few weeks back, quill was running by, killed him, looted cloak to my delight, then an OOC went out - anyone see quill? we are trying to spawn, felt bad, but not that bad...
I didn't know they were trying, he must have been up before they started.