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Old 08-20-2014, 01:18 PM
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Tookie made it to the forums finally?
What the fuck are you people talking about? How do you think you're so important that you can make such wild, stupid-ass accusations?


Most of the people defending casinos don't run casinos. And I don't know how in the hell you're implying I'm Tookie unless you're actually mentally retarded and can't see that 'Zforrestal' is.


Everyone 'hating' on casinos are doing so for absolutely no reason. 'Wahhhh my spam.' 'Wahhhhh I got scammed.' Orruar is right in saying that these 'solutions' don't necessarily fix these 'problems.' You just have your head so far up your ass you can't see the light of day.
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:18 PM
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We are sorry for ruining your Everquest gambling experience. We realize that at this point in time the number of players we will lose due to this change may just vacate the box completely, but we vow to continue on despite the odds.


You're losing more people to this "ban" than casinos running, and this doesn't stop "scammers" from playing this only stops legitimate people from playing.

What has been seriously stopped by no casinos... Yes its a way to slide by on (other illegal actions) but it doesn't stop them completely so nothing is solved...


I do have hope that one day this will get overturned....
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:31 PM
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I think the biggest issue with casinos is that they provided a pretty easy way to mask RMT activity.

An NPC casino like the one that was in shadow haven on live would be pretty neat.

Also, player run casinos were not allowed on the server I played on during live (E'ci).
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:41 PM
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I lament for the loss of Tookie, you were great.

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Old 08-20-2014, 01:43 PM
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How hard is it for people to understand that people were using "casinos" as a front for RMT plat sales? It is WAY more difficult to find and stop RMT when you exponentially increase the constant plat back and forth happening because of Casinos. We saw concrete evidence after the big RMT ban where people banned for RMT admitted they got their plat given to them from someone pretending to run a casino.


Come on people, think. This is a huge boon for RMT enforcement and it makes sitting in EC significantly less annoying.
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:44 PM
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I think the biggest issue with casinos is that they provided a pretty easy way to mask RMT activity.

An NPC casino like the one that was in shadow haven on live would be pretty neat.

Also, player run casinos were not allowed on the server I played on during live (E'ci).
Yea obviously the problem is RMT but it doesn't solve it and doesn't get rid of the people who are trying to do RMT's just helps the GM's be able to track them down easier..

I really don't think people are going to stop playing just because of this ruling. The only person they are really going to lose for good is me and that's because I just play to host a casino hence why I'm so adamant about the topic.. I feel they know that it is a loss which I guess is ok for me...

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How hard is it for people to understand that people were using "casinos" as a front for RMT plat sales? It is WAY more difficult to find and stop RMT when you exponentially increase the constant plat back and forth happening because of Casinos. We saw concrete evidence after the big RMT ban where people banned for RMT admitted they got their plat given to them from someone pretending to run a casino.


Come on people, think. This is a huge boon for RMT enforcement and it makes sitting in EC significantly less annoying.
I don't think people aren't grasping that aspect.. the point is the actions of others are affecting the actions of legitimate good people which for me is one of my big reasons and I'm assuming the reason for other people who run or play at casinos.
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:48 PM
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Yea obviously the problem is RMT but it doesn't solve it and doesn't get rid of the people who are trying to do RMT's just helps the GM's be able to track them down easier..

I really don't think people are going to stop playing just because of this ruling. The only person they are really going to lose for good is me and that's because I just play to host a casino hence why I'm so adamant about the topic.. I feel they know that it is a loss which I guess is ok for me...
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:50 PM
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If you're a scumbag you're a scumbag why should that affect me...

I'm not a scumbag I'd like to think I do good things but now I'm affected due to assholes... cool
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:52 PM
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I think the biggest issue with casinos is that they provided a pretty easy way to mask RMT activity.
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:52 PM
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The net loss to the server from pissing people off (i'm sorry, you're probably awesome as a person, but casinos as a category are really REALLY annoying - i have to /ignore someone new almost every time i come to EC), the petitions for people who were or claim to be scammed that keep the GMs busy, and masking RMT far outweighs the experience of the tiny group of people running legitimate casinos.

Just because something is bad for you, doesn't mean it is bad for the server, even if you yourself aren't bad for the server.
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