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Green Economy
Is it me, or it's pretty stale?
I spent several hours, over the last few days, auctionning stuff in the hundreds of plat and barely got any tells. Stuff that usually goes really quickly as it's affordable twink gear. The few tells I got mostly wanted to buy for half wiki price or less. Green economy seems pretty dead atm. Or maybe people just wait for the prices to crash due to the inevitable mudflation? | ||
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it’s because ppl want to pay blue prices on green
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Knowledge is the problem.
One example is people know which items will be removed and which items will be retroactively nerfed. Selling a fungus robe or a twig is very different from selling a fungus stick, manastone or rod of mourning. One gets retro-nerfed and one gets removed/nerfed. We know this info in advance and price accordingly. Another knowledge problem is that buyer-seller assymetric knowledge is shrinking. In real markets, consumers don't have perfect knowledge. In an emergent EQ market, individuals tended to camp certain items and knew more about the drop rates, difficulty, etc. than others. They used this disparity to make money. Have you ever gotten to a camp you've never done and realized it was a lot easier/harder and you got the item much faster/slower than you expected? On live, by the time that info can get around we'd be past that round of loot and on to new expansions with new loot. But we had Beta for 10 years. Knowledge disparity is shrinking. Also, we have historical pricing from Beta for 10 years, and people use or misuse this information. Most people want to sell manastones and lockets at 3-4+ year prices TODAY, and want to buy fungus tunics and tstaffs at 3-4+ year prices TODAY. tl;dr
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Last edited by Castle2.0; 11-24-2020 at 10:08 AM..
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or because they are all poor and actually need the cheapo prices
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The Green economy has always been fucked since the beginning. It started in the fall with Nub Team gouging their own guildies on necessary ~~~rAiD~~~ clickies and top drops. Mith 2handers were selling in the 20k range and up, root nets went for 2k for a very long time, a price NEVER reached on Blue -ever- As the ~~~rAiD sCeNe~~~ escalated, there were tons of people funneled into these guilds and awarded DKP. For many WoW players and other players from other MMOs this seemed like the logical choice/progression. Most people for the lifetime of Green invested in DKP instead of plat. There are a few people who are plat farmers who ended up with piles and piles of plat. Fat cats pay top dollar for nothing Everyone else is either relatively broke or absolutely effing broke. On Blue "everyone getting DKP" was not "a thing" at all whatsoever. DKP was not a currency to invest in. Items and plat were. Enter Kunark where now most guilds are doing a Kunark-wide loot for DKP bid situation. This is to make members feel like their funny money accumulated over Classic is actually worth something because there are so many mouths to feed that its mathematically impossible for every single member of even the ~~~tOp gUiLd~~~ to get a piece of loot from a Kunark dragon. How the hell do you think a Blade of the Black Dragon Eye is for sale? Absolute and total Kingdumb DKP cashout. I don't necessarily have a problem with it, these are simply facts. Everyone invested in DKP instead of plat. With guild-wide DKP bids on every single Kunark item dropped, why spend plat? DKP is "free" right? You can get great drops right now that are excellent upgrades and people balk at spending thousands of plat. Why? Because everyone has DKP stocked up and they have crabs in their pockets (Greek saying lol) OP is absolutely correct. The economy is indeed stale. Its not because everyone is out leveling. People out leveling need upgrades. They actually can't afford upgrades and they roll deep to make sure mobs die. People are seeking camps where they can roll on the upgrades they need and win them "for free" or they can spend DKP on items. The economy doesn't feel stale. It -is- stale.
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Most people are out leveling, and most spent the month leading up to Kunark buying the things they'd need. The market is stale because noone's buying Stein of Moggok and Gatorscale Sleeves two weeks into Kunark.
I put together a full set of necro twink gear a month before the expansion and it was clear that many others were doing the same. The amount of "WTB ShadowBound gloves+boots" etc. that I saw on a daily basis was telling. The stuff that's selling at the moment is the stuff you couldn't get before, i.e. monk weapons and tank-worthy chain gear. Kylong/Sebscale will sell, especially if you go to OT/LOIO/etc. instead of expecting iksar alts to come to EC. | ||
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Give it a couple months for people to get their mains to 60 and the market will be back. I've made a couple trips to EC during normally busy times to pick up a couple items and found very little for sale compared to normal. I think the same is true for buyers, just less folks buying and selling atm. | |||
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When I think of buying something on green it's like, meh, I'm here to camp that item.
I was hoping to see more WTT this item, for that item, like back in the oooollllld dayys But no it's mostly "that'll be 12k for the ring" One thing that is lost over time and I dont think we'll ever get back, is the "oh man that guy is cool because he has X item" I think those days are gone. | ||
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