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[aussenseiter]

AC is extremely poor at helping rogues tank in EverQuest.

Focus on AGI 200+

[Cecily]

Sorry you feel that way.

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who can't position right suck. There's a lot of them and I doubt it's intentional. If you're a person who can't tank so good I'm gonna snap that mob off you with a 100% backstab until the tank can manage it. Rogues, like rangers, are light tanks. High end rogues tank better than low end warriors.

A rogue as a tank? Cecily believing he is something he is not. Funny how this game bleeds into real life sometimes

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A rogue as a tank? Cecily believing he is something he is not. Funny how this game bleeds into real life sometimes

lmao

[7thGate]

Rogues can tank fine. Its very rarely optimal because you lose backstab damage. The spread in effectiveness vs. actual tanks widens if you're getting CHeals as your primary healing, because Rogue HP pools suck. But in terms of damage mitigation, Rogues mitigate quite well if geared for AC. Rogue defensive skills are actually slightly superior to a warrior's and they get bonus AC from high AGI that helps offset some of the AC difference through softcap returns.

I've done a bunch of Puppet Show, in various configurations with various people. Here's a list of everyone (EDIT: Actually mostly the last year, I have another log file I forgot about that probably has more) that's taken at least 50 attacks from a Tribunal Puppet that I've logged, with hit rate, avg hit and the corresponding damage taken per attack.

Hit %: 63.2%
Avg Hit: 213
Damage/Attack: 134.5

Hit %: 62.9%
Avg Hit: 210
Damage/Attack: 132.1

Hit %: 69.5%
Avg Hit: 244
Damage/Attack: 169.8

Hit %: 47.2%
Avg Hit: 198
Damage/Attack: 93.5

Hit %: 50.1%
Avg Hit: 184
Damage/Attack: 92.2

Hit %: 53.3%
Avg Hit: 200
Damage/Attack: 106.5

Hit %: 54%
Avg Hit: 211
Damage/Attack: 113.9

What classes do you think these people are?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogues can tank fine. Its very rarely optimal because you lose backstab damage. The spread in effectiveness vs. actual tanks widens if you're getting CHeals as your primary healing, because Rogue HP pools suck. But in terms of damage mitigation, Rogues mitigate quite well if geared for AC. Rogue defensive skills are actually slightly superior to a warrior's and they get bonus AC from high AGI that helps offset some of the AC difference through softcap returns.

I've done a bunch of Puppet Show, in various configurations with various people. Here's a list of everyone (EDIT: Actually mostly the last year, I have another log file I forgot about that probably has more) that's taken at least 50 attacks from a Tribunal Puppet that I've logged, with hit rate, avg hit and the corresponding damage taken per attack.

Hit %: 63.2%
Avg Hit: 213
Damage/Attack: 134.5

Hit %: 62.9%
Avg Hit: 210
Damage/Attack: 132.1

Hit %: 69.5%
Avg Hit: 244
Damage/Attack: 169.8

Hit %: 47.2%
Avg Hit: 198
Damage/Attack: 93.5

Hit %: 50.1%
Avg Hit: 184
Damage/Attack: 92.2

Hit %: 53.3%
Avg Hit: 200
Damage/Attack: 106.5

Hit %: 54%
Avg Hit: 211
Damage/Attack: 113.9

What classes do you think these people are?

ooo i like this post...curious to see the answers but lets let the guesses fly first

[7thGate]

Here's the rest of the ones from the other log file I had, which is huge and took forever to parse:

Hit %: 48.2%
Avg Hit: 217
Damage/Attack: 104.6

Hit %: 42%
Avg Hit: 193
Damage/Attack: 81

Hit %: 51.2
Avg Hit: 205
Damage/Attack: 105

Hit %: 58.1
Avg Hit: 215
Damage/Attack: 124.9

Hit %: 64.2
Avg Hit: 229
Damage/Attack: 147

Hit %: 33.3
Avg Hit: 296
Damage/Attack: 98.6

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ooo i like this post...curious to see the answers but lets let the guesses fly first

Low hit % means rogue or monkey. I'm too lazy to guess more.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Low hit % means rogue or monkey. I'm too lazy to guess more.

I suspect the 33% with huge average hit is a silky using runes.

[Duik]

Oh great. The suspense is killing other people.