Let it be known -- Luclin? Cats ont he Moon? Secretly cool all along.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by PabloEdvardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

arbitrarily stopping at velious kind of gives a false sense that the game was "the best" in that era, but there are many changes they introduced later over the years, whether bug fixes or small QOL, that was clearly a better design decision -- they just didn't have the time to do it earlier

It's not arbitrary. It's when story stopped being centered around Norrarh, and switches focus to Luclin, essentially rendering old-world content obsolete, with very few item exceptions.

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by DeliciousHalflings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not arbitrary. It's when story stopped being centered around Norrarh, and switches focus to Luclin, essentially rendering old-world content obsolete, with very few item exceptions.

Eh you can make the same argument about Velious making Classic content/items useless outside of a handful of exceptions.

[A Knight]

In Kunark at least they attempted, by removing Rubicite.

And in Velious, max gear was no drop, making Deepwater class armor still an efficient purchase.

Don't get me wrong, I think making things No drop, can be used when it's right. Just make sure someone doesn't leave the switch on, to where everything is no drop. /shrugs just my opinion. I don't mind if my noob ghoulbane gets replaced, just at the right time.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeliciousHalflings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's when story stopped being centered around Norrarh, and switches focus to Luclin, essentially rendering old-world content obsolete, with very few item exceptions.

Well, in Verant's defense, they tried making a Norath-focused expansion, with items that didn't disrupt existing content, in-between Luclin and PoP:

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It was ... not exactly well-received (although I was one of the few weirdos who actually liked it).

[A Knight]

Superior Fine plate Breastplate

Not No drop

80ac 150hp 50 mana, 10 to all stats,
20 to all resists except magic

Effect: Summon late to boat at Kaladim docks.

[Ravager]

Luclin had too many polygons. Triangle trees are where it's at.

[Coridan]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, in Verant's defense, they tried making a Norath-focused expansion, with items that didn't disrupt existing content, in-between Luclin and PoP:

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It was ... not exactly well-received (although I was one of the few weirdos who actually liked it).

Would have been fine if they didn't screw over Trolls. They should have put a new Froglok city in Kunark instead

[jolanar]

I really don't see how it being the moon makes it functionally any different at all from a different continent.

If anything Luclin lore is more closely connected to Antonica/Odus than Velious is connected to the rest of Norrath.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, in Verant's defense, they tried making a Norath-focused expansion, with items that didn't disrupt existing content, in-between Luclin and PoP

LoY came out after PoP. I think you could say LDoN also fits the same criteria of being Norrath focused.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LoY came out after PoP. I think you could say LDoN also fits the same criteria of being Norrath focused.

Whoops, it's been too long. That makes the expansion make even less sense.

I agree re: LDON though, as it was North focused, and augments didn't invalidate old gear.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see how it being the moon makes it functionally any different at all from a different continent.

If anything Luclin lore is more closely connected to Antonica/Odus than Velious is connected to the rest of Norrath.

We don't talk about LDoN/LoY

LoY came out after PoP. I think you could say LDoN also fits the same criteria of being Norrath focused.