Game Mechanics: Make Quillmane Classic Again

[Sarvok]

Perhaps the way in which QM spawns is more "Classic" but the drop rate of the cloak is NOT classic. Even dating back on Allakhazam:

#Jan 11 2001 at 7:42 PMRating: Decent
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don't be disapointed if you get the leggings man, 5 times out of 10 he drops them instead of the cloak

Dating back to 2001 even cloak on Live dropped 50% of the time... What they did was drop the rate when it was "easier" to camp before to outweigh people getting them so easily.. but now that they changed the way in which it spawns, they didn't change the drop rate to be better reflective of true classic.. It's now impossible to get vs what it actually was on Live.

[Gustoo]

I’m trying to think of how enabling pvp would solve this problem.

[Lammy]

I posted this years ago on these forums but just wanted to reaffirm this thread.

This is the info you need to know

Quillmanes spawning script is a bit different on P99 than it was from classic live.

How I remember it

Quillmane had it's own spawn cycle of 78 seconds, and was one of the few cycles in the zone to run on that specific timer. (another being the crack tusk cycle). All other mobs use either a 38 second or the longer zone timer.

Quillmanes cycle placeholders had what seemed like (approx) 20+ random spawn locations only in the southern half of the zone. After the Placeholder (or quillmane) spawned, it could roam to the northern area of the zone most memorably taking a northern path through split paw.

Cycle Spawn %

a lion - 16
a lioness - 12
an escaped Splitpaw gnoll - 12
an elephant - 9
a shadow wolf - 6
centaur sheltie - 3
a mist wolf - 3
aviak avocet - 2
centaur archer - 2
aviak darter - 1
aviak harrier - 1
aviak rook - 1
centaur courser - 1
a cyclops - 1
Quillmane - 7

As you can see, I only got the one kind of elephant. While that isn't PROOF that the other kinds of elephant aren't on his spawn cycle, I don't believe that they are. Regular cyclops ARE a ph.


And I 100% GUARANTEE YOU that Quillmane and his placeholders can spawn at more than 30+ locations. The most EXTREME spawns I found were:
as far west as: (3224, -4450)
as far east as: (-2554, -3780)
as far south as: (1865, -6417)
as far north as: (2779, -3575)


http://alt.games.everquest.narkive.c...-old-everquest

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...7&p=5#comments

[Croco]

would love for dev's to tell us how many cloaks have dropped since this change, there's no way this spawn rate or drop rate are classic in any way shape or form

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I posted this years ago on these forums but just wanted to reaffirm this thread.

This is the info you need to know

Quillmanes spawning script is a bit different on P99 than it was from classic live.

How I remember it

Quillmane had it's own spawn cycle of 78 seconds, and was one of the few cycles in the zone to run on that specific timer. (another being the crack tusk cycle). All other mobs use either a 38 second or the longer zone timer.

Quillmanes cycle placeholders had what seemed like (approx) 20+ random spawn locations only in the southern half of the zone. After the Placeholder (or quillmane) spawned, it could roam to the northern area of the zone most memorably taking a northern path through split paw.

Cycle Spawn %

a lion - 16
a lioness - 12
an escaped Splitpaw gnoll - 12
an elephant - 9
a shadow wolf - 6
centaur sheltie - 3
a mist wolf - 3
aviak avocet - 2
centaur archer - 2
aviak darter - 1
aviak harrier - 1
aviak rook - 1
centaur courser - 1
a cyclops - 1
Quillmane - 7

As you can see, I only got the one kind of elephant. While that isn't PROOF that the other kinds of elephant aren't on his spawn cycle, I don't believe that they are. Regular cyclops ARE a ph.


And I 100% GUARANTEE YOU that Quillmane and his placeholders can spawn at more than 30+ locations. The most EXTREME spawns I found were:
as far west as: (3224, -4450)
as far east as: (-2554, -3780)
as far south as: (1865, -6417)
as far north as: (2779, -3575)


http://alt.games.everquest.narkive.c...-old-everquest

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...7&p=5#comments

Memories don't count if they aren't backed up by evidence, and none of what you posted is evidence no matter how much you guarantee. You are correct about one thing though, none of that is proof.

[Jimjam]

Conjecture and hearsay are kinds of evidence.

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Conjecture and hearsay are kinds of evidence.

Not that kind that have any merit in this subforum.

[eisley]

The new Quillmane code is absolutely able to cracked like the previous one. It's not as easy, but it's not that much harder. Whereas 1 bard was fine before, I'd suggest 2 bards now.

I used to sell Quillmane cloaks back around 2015 (Here is one thread) and it was silly. 2 triggers with about five spawn routes each was low effort, to put it mildly.

Spoiler alert - the key to finding the new triggers lies in the spawn time. Use this to locate one, then follow it's route, remembering an NPC can spawn at any point of it's route. Once you've located one trigger, you can now use track order to find the next. Bard + Ranger is ideal for this. Find it, Highsun, follow it, repeat.

It takes patience, but it's not that hard. AoEing the entire zone is just going to take longer.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The new Quillmane code is absolutely able to cracked like the previous one. It's not as easy, but it's not that much harder. Whereas 1 bard was fine before, I'd suggest 2 bards now.

I used to sell Quillmane cloaks back around 2015 (Here is one thread) and it was silly. 2 triggers with about five spawn routes each was low effort, to put it mildly.

Spoiler alert - the key to finding the new triggers lies in the spawn time. Use this to locate one, then follow it's route, remembering an NPC can spawn at any point of it's route. Once you've located one trigger, you can now use track order to find the next. Bard + Ranger is ideal for this. Find it, Highsun, follow it, repeat.

It takes patience, but it's not that hard. AoEing the entire zone is just going to take longer.

Good, glad your figured this out. I need 4 cloaks please, /tap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Croco]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The new Quillmane code is absolutely able to cracked like the previous one. It's not as easy, but it's not that much harder. Whereas 1 bard was fine before, I'd suggest 2 bards now.

I used to sell Quillmane cloaks back around 2015 (Here is one thread) and it was silly. 2 triggers with about five spawn routes each was low effort, to put it mildly.

Spoiler alert - the key to finding the new triggers lies in the spawn time. Use this to locate one, then follow it's route, remembering an NPC can spawn at any point of it's route. Once you've located one trigger, you can now use track order to find the next. Bard + Ranger is ideal for this. Find it, Highsun, follow it, repeat.

It takes patience, but it's not that hard. AoEing the entire zone is just going to take longer.

I would be incredibly surprised if you have just happened to crack the new formula when the rest of the server is basically still in the dark. In just the last week some of my guildies have gone to SK with almost a full group and farmed for about 6 hours. They got 3 Q spawns, no cloak. Yesterday a different person went alone and farmed for 7 hours, I forget if it was on a bard or ranger, and saw a single spawn, obviously no cloak.

Like most things on this server this is now completely overtuned to the point where for the average player it's not even worth going to SK and trying to spawn Q.