Game Mechanics: Charm not properly charming NPC *or* PC pets

[xblade724]

Charming PC **OR** even NPC pet "will not take hold".. is this a bug? Doesn't seem right.....

[Nirgon]

It should insta gib summoned pets if it lands.

Should not hit players.

[xblade724]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It should insta gib summoned pets if it lands.

Should not hit players.

Right (gib = give? lol) --

* Charm NPC/PC pet, nothing happens (spell will not take hold)
* Charm NPC pet owner, success + owner's pet suicides
* Charm PC pet owner, nothing happens (spell will not take hold).

Charming the NPC pet's (not their masters) from either a NPC or PC will fail due to "protection". I believe this is not correct: You should be able to charm NPC/PC pets, right? Like a shadowman npc's necro pet, or a real player's mage pet?

[Nirgon]

Gib = insta kill

Bards on RZ insta killed mage epic pets all da time :P

Puppet strings etc should do this too, not just bard charm

And on the other hand... bard chants/denon's etc should be very easy to resist

[xblade724]

WOW that's really interesting... so if I charm the pet itself = insta kill hm?

I suppose it's two things:
1) Currently a bug since nothing happens when you charm pets themselves ~ need to remove that "protection", almost like pvp protection
2) Freaking awesome

[Nirgon]

Well don't get too excited all at once

A summoned pet with an MR buff was nearly magic immune if it didn't get tashed/dispelled. This worked out of the box on the Lucid Vision server years ago for some reason.

[xblade724]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well don't get too excited all at once

A summoned pet with an MR buff was nearly magic immune if it didn't get tashed/dispelled. This worked out of the box on the Lucid Vision server years ago for some reason.

Hmm, it's not that it's getting resisted though, it's just plain "not working". Like, "The spell will not take hold" or something like that, as if I cast a damage song on an OOR person.

High resists is cool -- It would be fun to just have a "chance" of that happening. As long as *something* can be at least attempted~

slightly off topic, but resists Q: I remember on pvp, they made it so that even if you have 10000MR, there would always be a very small % of something landing no matter what (never 100% blocking) from pure luck.. does this apply here too?

[Vandy]

You can charm an NPC's pet once the owner is dead. If the NPC is still alive then the charm will fail as it already has a master.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by xblade724 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, it's not that it's getting resisted though, it's just plain "not working". Like, "The spell will not take hold" or something like that, as if I cast a damage song on an OOR person.

High resists is cool -- It would be fun to just have a "chance" of that happening. As long as *something* can be at least attempted~

slightly off topic, but resists Q: I remember on pvp, they made it so that even if you have 10000MR, there would always be a very small % of something landing no matter what (never 100% blocking) from pure luck.. does this apply here too?

Had an even con pal on live fully resist a conflag when he was on a CR (no buffs/gear).

Don't think that can happen here.

[Grimjaw]

sounds like we need to implement some classicness over here