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Old 09-01-2020, 01:19 PM
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The two corporate incentives to publish media are to garner money or influence. If you can make money garnering influence even better. Scrutiny, context and facts are boring and neither sell papers nor control attitudes / behaviours.

There is not incentive for massed market journalism under capitalism.
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:30 PM
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Nah demand for actual journalism is rising hence the rapid success of independent reporting on youtube of all places. It's sad it's come to that, but mainstream outlets are dying rapidly because many people are realizing it's all bullshit. Give it ten years.
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Old 09-01-2020, 07:31 PM
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And you can always tell exactly which Youtuber is reporting facts because those facts will always align with your world view. Coincidentally, of course.
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Old 09-01-2020, 07:54 PM
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Well it's more like how often they admit mistakes, make retractions, and say "Ya know I don't like X political entity, but I think they're right here". These are super elementary signs of honesty that have evaporated from mainstream outlets. Every single headline is editorialized out the ass. "A comet is heading directly for earth; women most affected"

This is where I actually agree with zodium, capitalism incentivizes this type of slimeball journalism. But then the populace who consumes it, since they aren't 5 years old, start to notice how full of shit it all is and the market provides preferable alternatives.
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Old 09-01-2020, 08:58 PM
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Journalism is when YouTube's doesn't pay you for your videos, so you get da skrilla by patreon begging
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Old 09-01-2020, 09:11 PM
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Well until patreon bans you too anyway but I wouldn't see it as begging any more than like... selling a car is begging or running a sandwich shop is begging. Nobody is forced to patronize you.
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:21 PM
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since they aren't 5 years old, start to notice how full of shit it all is and the market provides preferable alternatives.
is that what happened? i have been sad because the exact opposite happened. like u are 5
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:59 AM
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I yearn for the day when journalism isn't political activism. Until then I read "news" from both sides and laugh at how differently the story is spun.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:20 AM
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the concept of a single objective, universally accessible world of fact may now be allowed to recede into the darkness; and just as critical theory might have suggested, what has come to replace that image of the world is another in which the chief thing is to see who has the upper hand.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:08 AM
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Remember when video game journalism wasn't the same article being copied 1000x across all gaming news sites? Remember when IGN was a UO (the crossroads) website?
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