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Old 06-25-2020, 12:38 PM
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They're doing a time-honored American tradition: screw over everyone but yourself to make ungodly amounts of money, then spend some fraction of that money (while still living a disgustingly opulent lifestyle) to also buy "max faction for your character" (ie. a good name in the history books).
Well, the principle is quite a bit older than that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
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Old 06-25-2020, 12:48 PM
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Why is it always the losers who hate on wildly successful business folk? Do you know why Jeff Bezos is the richest man on Earth? Because he created a company that was better than the competition. Amazon closed inefficiencies in distribution that will now be forever closed, thanks to Amazon. They also made computing a utility, and are on their way to making machine learning a utility. If you consider these discontinuous leap forward in productivity and efficiency for mankind "scummy", then it doesn't really matter what you think because that line of thought is irrelevant.

Inb4 "muh small companies" - this is a short-term effect of a giant leap forward. Every other major technological leap has displaced existing workers and companies in the short term but benefitted society in the long term. Amazon's contributions are no different.
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Old 06-25-2020, 01:01 PM
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Well, the principle is quite a bit older than that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
Heh, but the American part is that they are weighed in the court of public opinion/history ... not by the Catholic Church [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-25-2020, 01:15 PM
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Old 06-25-2020, 01:44 PM
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Why is it always the losers who hate on wildly successful business folk? Do you know why Jeff Bezos is the richest man on Earth? Because he created a company that was better than the competition. Amazon closed inefficiencies in distribution that will now be forever closed, thanks to Amazon. They also made computing a utility, and are on their way to making machine learning a utility. If you consider these discontinuous leap forward in productivity and efficiency for mankind "scummy", then it doesn't really matter what you think because that line of thought is irrelevant.

Inb4 "muh small companies" - this is a short-term effect of a giant leap forward. Every other major technological leap has displaced existing workers and companies in the short term but benefitted society in the long term. Amazon's contributions are no different.
Bezos isn't at all like a modern bill gates. He poached competition and didn't care because the potential penalty was a joke and the legal system has STILL not caught up with the internet age. I don't think of him as bad/evil guy or anything, but he is not far removed from the dude on the corner selling you a "Rolex" and damn if it ain't shiny.
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Old 06-25-2020, 02:13 PM
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You know what? How dare you? Just because I was gleefully complicent in helping The Mystical Order stall the progress of a thousand other players on the server doesn't make me the bad guy. In fact your implied use of "guy" as a gender neutral pronoun, while meta ironically using it in the male sense is at best a thinly veiled transphobic microaggression and, more likely, yet another attempt to silence me as a woman on this patriarchal platform.
My only regret is that I cannot edit my post to make explicit use of "guy", or even to imply its use (your unsupported attempt to infer an implication is pretty awesome tho, "mad props" for that.)

In my defense, I feel I must point out that my inactive forever 50-something rogue on blue has the name Guyfencin (quick, somebody call the name police!).
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Old 06-25-2020, 02:15 PM
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You know what? How dare you? Just because I was gleefully complicent in helping The Mystical Order stall the progress of a thousand other players on the server doesn't make me the bad guy. In fact your implied use of "guy" as a gender neutral pronoun, while meta ironically using it in the male sense is at best a thinly veiled transphobic microaggression and, more likely, yet another attempt to silence me as a woman on this patriarchal platform.
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Old 06-25-2020, 03:18 PM
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Bezos isn't at all like a modern bill gates. He poached competition and didn't care because the potential penalty was a joke and the legal system has STILL not caught up with the internet age. I don't think of him as bad/evil guy or anything, but he is not far removed from the dude on the corner selling you a "Rolex" and damn if it ain't shiny.
I'm not sure if you really like Bill Gates or really dislike Jeff Bezos but.....how Gates got to where he is meant he didn't simply climb a ladder or even step on some toes. He (figuratively) walked into IBM's main corporate building and smacked ever executive over the head with a 2x4. Hell, right around when I was getting into working on computers it became apparent to me that MS/Gates was more about acquiring tech and companies more than developing things on their own. While they do some of their own development a lot of it is that dude on the corner selling you a Rolex.
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Old 06-25-2020, 03:27 PM
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Old 06-25-2020, 03:42 PM
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Bezos isn't at all like a modern bill gates. He poached competition and didn't care because the potential penalty was a joke and the legal system has STILL not caught up with the internet age. I don't think of him as bad/evil guy or anything, but he is not far removed from the dude on the corner selling you a "Rolex" and damn if it ain't shiny.
I agree - he's not a modern Bill Gates. He is responsible for a much bigger impact on the world than is Bill Gates.

When the legal system does catch up, the result will be a more regulated and yet still much better version of what previously existed.
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