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One old thread I found the following info: "Charisma effects: 1. Lull resists (determines whether you aggro the mob or not) Is the effect resisted? If the effect is resisted, will the NPC get angry and tell its friends that it's time for a BardSnack(tm), or will it ignore what just happened? Charisma is the sole determinant in the second check. It doesn't affect (resists)." This implies that your level will matter more on whether a Lull is initially resisted, and a Charisma check is applied to see whether that will become a critical resist (mob aggroes). I've been looking through a lot of sources, but can't definitively say whether that is accurate or not. Anecdotally, I can say my Dwarf Cleric with a hellishly low CHA gets crit-resisted very often on Lull. This isn't much an issue in the higher levels with full groups - usually a Monk or Bard pulling, or having an Enchanter handy. Duo/Trio its more problematic. As we know, Divine intervention is the vast majority of the time used on the Tank, and of course it checks THEIR charisma, not the cleric's. | |||
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A cleorc should put their starting points into wisdom wtf is this thread
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I will say, and I will keep banging this fucking drum, and many excellent players will wholeheartedly agree with me and do to this day, point into wis is of little consequence to a priest in PvE and ~especially on this box when everybody ~~~rAiDs~~~ with 100 people~ Quote:
And hold on....are we actually arguing the importance and effectiveness of ~every single cha point~ when it comes to crit resists? Didn't we already figure this out? What the fuck are you talking about man? What the fuck is going on here? 23% of your -starting- points. How about when you quickly hit 200 points from all the wis gear you have on? Then how about when you go over the softcap and the amount of points per mana plummets? Did you factor those into your theoretical equation? Did you account for the 23% of your -starting- mana that's what, 3 mana at level 1, when at this point 3 months into the server anybody rolling a cleric is going to get Moonstone Rings and some cheap JC wrists and get damn near 100 mana immediately? What the fuck are you talking about? How about factoring this into your bullshit arithmetic that you try to pass off as "eureka!" or "a-ha!" you fucking idiot - - how about sitting to catch med ticks diligently? You realize how much catching a med tick is worth vs. just standing between casts? Do you know how many raw mana points that is over time? How about catching med ticks with clarity? How many ticks does it take to catch the amount of mana you lost from that 25 wis from your mana pool under softcap? How about over softcap? Did you factor these into your equation? Can you do this math on your cell phone? Or with an abacus? What the fuck is wrong with you? Also, how many ~cLeRiCs~ or any players in general are disciplined to sit to catch every single med tick between casts as much as possible? ~hEaLiNg~ takes SO much effort that theres no POSSIBLE way people can be bothered to sit the fuck down immediately after their cast. No, that's waaaaay to much work. Here's another thing to factor into your 23% arithmetic you moron - how about the fact that every single second you spend playing EQ at full mana is wasted time you could be getting more mana? And how about how many bad players at this game sit around with waaaay to much mana in their bar? You ---never--- want to be full mana unless you are getting ready for a gnarly pull or obviously just camping a couple mobs. If your bar is full, you cast SOMETHING - cast a nuke, cast another buff, SOMETHING - and then get more mana. So do you know how to calculate this into your theoretical math Mr. Tyson? Quote:
P99 does have a lot of bugs. One of those bugs? Way too many mana per point over softcap. Even still, stat points over softcap are wasted points. This is common knowledge. The nature of cleric gear is such that, especially if you ~~~rAiD~~~ as most clerics do, you will easily get over softcap because cleric gear has tons of wisdom. Then you know what happens? You hit hardcap and your roll points are completely wasted. This knowledge is so incredibly basic, especially those who supposedly "know EQ," as you apparently do, you fucking idiot Quote:
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What actually happens is that most players put all their points into Wis on PvE because they don't aspire to do a god damn thing besides collect DKP and sit in a CH chain. In fact the vast majority of players on P99 have absolutely no idea what most classes can do, mostly because they've never had the fortune of playing with and learning from good players. They just level up in full groups and then get that DKP while others do the heavy lifting. When I play I actually go kill hard shit and get drops. I do it duo with Shaman and do all the calming. I'll go with an Enc buddy and he will calm and watch his pet while I pull. When I play I'm out killing shit deep in dungeons. I don't politick and I don't sit around collecting DKP. So, how is it that I made it to max 50 without being in a ~~~rAiD gUiLd~~~ and soloing many of my levels, including the majority of my 40s? How did I do that putting points into CHA? Which by the way I did 15wis 15cha, which I mention in my post. Is soloing and pulling as a cleric not more ~hArDcOrE~ than sitting on your ass FM in a full 6 man group or sitting around in a CH chain? Is pulling nameds that hit for 160 underwater on a Cleric not ~hArDcOrE~? Is going and doing hard cash camps duo with a Shaman and doing all the calming not ~hArDcOrE~? What the fuck is going on here? Why do people want me to play with them and enjoy playing with me when I made such a stupid choice with my roll? Am I letting everybody die? Am I not pulling and CCing and stunning and moving everything along...as a cleric? Am I a fucking asshole and not actually a nice guy and enjoyable to play with? Maybe -you- are the paint chip eating idiot dude. Quote:
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And I'm assuming you expect me to sit here and fucking "take it?" You are a fucking neanderthal. Go fuck right off you asshole
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I like mspaint.
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Also cha is basically the only Stat that matters.
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clerics have multiple items they can get that are basically class exclusive that add +7, 8, 9, whatever wisdom per slot. using your base points on wisdom is retarded.
also, when you're doing 2-3 man groups (like the actual good players do instead of sitting around in a 100 person raid like a fucking drooling retard) very often you gotta use every tool in the box.
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My gimp druid alt has 200 wis with several slots empty. Get gud at ECquest. Naked cha is an important stat when lulling down to your corpse and those of your group. The True Powergamer puts all points into cha, for every class. To do otherwise is sub-optimal and try-hard.
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