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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nazi Germany had a socialist command-and-control economy.

No it didn't. It was a mixed market with plenty of free enterprise. The NSDAP targeted institutions it felt were "parasitic", which ran the gamut from labor unions to financial lending institutions. While the Nazis nationalized or tampered with many industries related to the war, so did the United States. There was still plenty of capitalist activity.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

North Korea is a modern example (which is actually communist).

I wouldn't call it communist at all. Remember, the Kim's are gods. They aren't just a 'fearless leader'. The people are made to worship the family. There are plenty of defectors in South Korea and else where in the world who have given their testimony of what really goes on in NK.

Reminds me Japan prior WW2, minus the emperor didn't flat out kill his people and other heinous things. If the Emp tells his people something, they listen and obey. I mean, it's their god! How can they not?

[Rader]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know as bad as the boomers were -- I really think Gen X takes the cake on shitty political attitudes. The Kiss generation IMO. Flashy and Hollow. The generation that stands for nothing and basically accomplished nothing.

Gen X is to the Boomers what The Silent Generation is to the Greatest Generation. They are tag-alongs too small an insignificant to form their own generational identity -- so their the "good boys/girls" of the last one.

"We’re seeing this play out in Congress today with Gen X leaders like Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.), Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) on the right, and leaders like Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.), Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) and Cory Booker (N.J.) on the left."

What a bunch of shitters. But man they sure good at getting themselves paid. That's one thing Gen. X excels at -- fucking others for money and not feeling bad about it.

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My Gen X real estate finance instructor (not a professor) was damn good I have to admit.

You are obviously a pathetic loser who has accomplished nothing on your own, if you have to grasp desperately at a sense of self-importance by attaching yourself to some imagined generational force. Personally, you and the rest of the snowflake millennials can all go F yourselves for all I care.

[mickmoranis]

Im going to be really disappointed if world war 3 doesn't start in the next few years.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't call it communist at all. Remember, the Kim's are gods. They aren't just a 'fearless leader'. The people are made to worship the family. There are plenty of defectors in South Korea and else where in the world who have given their testimony of what really goes on in NK.

Reminds me Japan prior WW2, minus the emperor didn't flat out kill his people and other heinous things. If the Emp tells his people something, they listen and obey. I mean, it's their god! How can they not?

Communism can mean a few different things to people -- but in most the political science world it means a certain kind of authoritarian system where one party (they usually call themselves a socialist party) controls a far-reaching government that does not allow free assembly, expression of political ideas, or most civil disobedience.

They control who gets to run what business and sometimes have large amount of state-owned business that displace free enterprise. If you want to advance in that society you have to join the party and they basically rule your life. No sense of privacy or civil rights.

Mix all that together with some Marxist language and wellfare for single women and education and you got yourself a communist country. Most these countries also have had leaders that purposefully make a "cult of personality." Marxism doesn't think people can unite while they are religious -- so they try to replace faith in God with faith in the state. It's not that uncommon for leaders to be deified.

While it is interesting to talk about what Marx's vision of communism was. The word is now use to describe a type of dictatorship (single-party systems we call it). Meanwhile the true heirs of Marx call themselves Democratic-socialists. They consider Communism -- as I do -- to be a fake-socialist system that is actually just a shitty form of capitalism (there was a money-economy in all these societies).

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Rader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are obviously a pathetic loser who has accomplished nothing on your own, if you have to grasp desperately at a sense of self-importance by attaching yourself to some imagined generational force. Personally, you and the rest of the snowflake millennials can all go F yourselves for all I care.

Well, judging by your butthurt and personalized response, you think generational culture is a significant force too.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it didn't. It was a mixed market with plenty of free enterprise. The NSDAP targeted institutions it felt were "parasitic", which ran the gamut from labor unions to financial lending institutions. While the Nazis nationalized or tampered with many industries related to the war, so did the United States. There was still plenty of capitalist activity.

This is wrong. The capitalist activity occurred on the black market. Albert Speer controlled the rest.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Communism can mean a few different things to people -- but in most the political science world it means a certain kind of authoritarian system where one party (they usually call themselves a socialist party) controls a far-reaching government that does not allow free assembly, expression of political ideas, or most civil disobedience.

They control who gets to run what business and sometimes have large amount of state-owned business that displace free enterprise. If you want to advance in that society you have to join the party and they basically rule your life. No sense of privacy or civil rights.

Mix all that together with some Marxist language and wellfare for single women and education and you got yourself a communist country. Most these countries also have had leaders that purposefully make a "cult of personality." Marxism doesn't think people can unite while they are religious -- so they try to replace faith in God with faith in the state. It's not that uncommon for leaders to be deified.

While it is interesting to talk about what Marx's vision of communism was. The word is now use to describe a type of dictatorship (single-party systems we call it). Meanwhile the true heirs of Marx call themselves Democratic-socialists. They consider Communism -- as I do -- to be a fake-socialist system that is actually just a shitty form of capitalism (there was a money-economy in all these societies).

I am not disagreeing with what you are saying about communism. NK is more of a Totalitarian or Monarchy government with the exception that the Kims are not Kings, they are gods.

Communist in their case would insinuate that the one person has a comity in which has a 'say'.

[mickmoranis]

Nkorea shoots missile over japan, that's a first.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nkorea shoots missile over japan, that's a first.

its a fraud they did a launch from China.

there is no evidence to support a NK launch outside of what intelligence services have said.