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And again, I'm speaking as someone who had the same misunderstanding, and was disabused of it in this long thread: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=395987
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This is a dangerous topic to broach simply because around here we don't complain or criticize the devs and their decisions. This is their project, their forum, and they prefer to keep it that way.
As a software developer and someone who at one time worked on the eqemulator codebase (prior to p99 even existing), I'm definitely of the belief that it should be kept open source including all custom derivatives, and that arguing the semantics over distribution in GPL would likely not hold up well in court. However, the stable legal situation that p99 managed to carve out for itself means even if the situation is less-than-ideal to some of us, we appreciate knowing the project isn't being shut down tomorrow from a DMCA. | ||
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Eventually I understood my mistake and apologized, but the point is they are extremely open to letting people say just about anything in these forums, as long as it isn't a direct attack on them (and sometimes even then). Honestly, I wish they moderated suff like hate speech more, but in general I have great respect for how much they allow people to say nearly anything here.
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i bet you feel pretty silly right now
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This quote is directly from the gpl-3 license while your quotes were generalizing GNU licenses (there are multiple kinds of GNU licensing - it's easy to make a misconception if you quote from a GNU Generalization rather than directly form GPL3). GPL3 is called a "viral" license because once you add a GPL3 item to your code, ALL code (including modified) becomes GPL3. If it's GPL3'd, you need to open src it. Heck, if you had a GPL3 README text file, your entire codebase becomes GPL3. Distributions include binaries and server responses (called "Object Code" in the terms). Very plain. Very clear. | ||||||
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Look, regular law is hard, for lawyers. You're a non-lawyer, trying to grok highly technical law just by reading a few sentences ... and that doesn't work.
So don't trust me: trust the experts. Just google "gpl3 server loophole" and at the top of the very first link you will find (emphasis added): Quote:
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I feel like this is just an elaborate troll. If P99 was actually legally obligated to do anything, instead of making a weird thinly veiled threat post on the forums, you could've just forced them to do it.
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https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-affero-gpl.html was made to get around the SaaS loophole - p99 server is SaaS and not distributed, sorry to deflate your balloon.
This is largely a failing on the licensing of eqemu itself (if it were AGPLv3, you'd likely have a current copy of p99 source available locally for the last 10 years).
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