p99 is slowly dying

[tankh]

Same old people casting doubt on p99, bitter and twisted people who never learned to share.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by tankh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same old people casting doubt on p99, bitter and twisted people who never learned to share.

Yeah it's always funny when these threads pop up every several months. It's always essentially "P99 is dying because I can't play the game specifically the way I want to and I don't want to share with others"

[Danth]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it's always funny when these threads pop up every several months. It's always essentially "P99 is dying because I can't play the game specifically the way I want to and I don't want to share with others"

That or "I quit the game because I burnt out so it's dying now or needs to be destroyed so nobody else can enjoy it anymore either."

Danth

[Synphul]

I just leveled a couple alts up to the low 50's on blue and good times were had along the way with a few fresh faces and some old ones. I think most of the people that say it's dying are the players that want to just sit in a zone with their LFG tags up and expect to get a group or lean more towards being anti-social. Duo's and trios can go lots of places and full groups can be had pretty easily in the hot zones.

P99 and EQ in general rewards those that make shit happen. Start that group/duo/trio, talk to random people, and offer to help others before you assume they should want to help you.

[RevSaber]

Its an analogy for American ideas / meritocracy dying. People too lazy just line up for welfare pixels. Enable pvp in America, i mean antonica.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it's always funny when these threads pop up every several months. It's always essentially "P99 is dying because I can't play the game specifically the way I want to and I don't want to share with others"

P99 is still using broken channeling rates which make the game stupidly easy in all ways. Core gameplay function still broken. I'll return if this is ever addressed and the devs start actually communicating about bugs by providing a bug tracker like any other modern day code base. Also this extends beyond channeling to INT/WIS mana caps and many other things which are dramatically "not classic" here.

It's pretty simple. P99 is trivialized EQ in all ways. From level 1 to highest end raid targets everything is about 10x easier than it would have been on live. The added trivialization like lists, increased spawn rates, rooted raids, on and on, it's just a joke now.

P99 is no longer attempting to recreate classic. It's a unique "Everquest classic based experience" or whatever. I mean, they even nerfed quest turn ins so you can't get to level 8 from bone chips but recharging items on vendors endlessly to trivialize raiding is just fine. Nothing makes sense here anymore and it got WAY WORSE upon green launch. They basically had promised a super classic green launch and within a few days we had increased spawn rates, an instanced server, nerfed quests, etc.

It's pretty fucking hilarious to hear anyone try to talk past these issues. P99 isn't classic EQ anymore and it isn't trying to be.

[Baler]

azxten is the guy who made two failed threads about how enchanter is not classic.
Meanwhile vetted sources of accuracy have proved him wrong.

Then he admitted he was jaded they nerfed bard AE to 25 limit and that's why he conquests anti-enchanter propaganda.

Just the straight facts ^^^

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

azxten is the guy who made two failed threads about how enchanter is not classic.
Meanwhile vetted sources of accuracy have proved him wrong.

Then he admitted he was jaded they nerfed bard AE to 25 limit and that's why he conquests anti-enchanter propaganda.

Just the straight facts ^^^

Except for the fact that the following was proven...

1. Channeling is extremely broken.

2. Enchanters shouldn't be able to re-mez a mob and get a mem wipe chance, it should have to break mez first and be recast.

3. Enchanter pet HP values are too high.

4. All pets were extremely broken in classic and Enchanters 10x more so meaning all easily used pets up until near Kunark area shouldn't exist. They should train groups, attack group members, warp through the zone, etc.

5. Several other questionable things that just don't have substantial evidence or data to correct particularly around magic resistance of planar/raid level mobs which made Enchanters unable to CC easily let alone charm mobs.

Many of the things proven and discussed had already been reported in the past with significant evidence but the reports get no response. I merely aggregated them to show how ridiculous and obvious it was that Enchanter was being treated as special or protected for some reason.

The Bard mention was just an example to raise the question of why the staff makes non-classic nerfs to some classes but not others like Enchanter. Pet attack delay from fine steel. Necro lifetap, AE kiting. These things were mentioned. Simply making the argument that Enchanter is clearly OP and trivializes content in all aspects of the game similar to those classes which wasn't the case in live. For "some reason" though Enchanter has been left alone in this regard. Why do some classes have classic abilities nerfed because it's "too OP" but Enchanter shouldn't be considered for similar nerfs?

The better Bard example to counter Enchanter cry babies was that Bards actually didn't get level capped charm and were able to charm CT in Fear. Yet for "some reason" this ability won't be granted to Bards and Enchanters will keep their non-classic ability to charm raid mobs which was proven to not be possible in era. A Bard, Necro, pet with daggers, unresistable life tap, quest exp, on and on definitely needs a nerf but Enchanter should carry everyone at all levels on P99 from the stupid level treadmills with charmed back stabbing pets we saw at green launch all the way up to easy CC and channeling through being hit 20 times by raid mobs.

Enchanter players who want to continue playing "EQ classic experience custom 2021" cry whenever the overwhelming evidence is brought up that Enchanter is overpowered on P99 both due to bugs which are proven like channeling and overpowered abilities they are allowed to keep that others classes are not. In short, no matter how you look at it, Enchanter should be nerfed to make P99 more enjoyable and challenging.

However, what really bugged me was the channeling issue and the easily obtained data including decompile of classic era client that showed it was severely broken on P99 but the staff wouldn't comment on it. This brought this issue of P99's trivial and boring nature to the forefront when I realized EVERY class is overpowered right now because of this. The entire game is in fact broken from a classic perspective given that one of the most basic mechanics, channeling, has an overwhelming success rate that is nothing like live. From level 1-60 killing snakes or ST mobs channeling trivializes the game and makes it nothing like classic and anyone who is honest with themselves knows this is true. The Enchanter cry babies can't even let go of the fact that my focus is on channeling now and not Enchanter since I realized that is the root cause of all trivialization on P99 at the moment.

People who want a broken non-classic experience and defend overlooking these bugs often claim I'm trying to get some kind of advantage or I'm mad about some other class I want to play being nerfed. It's rather silly considering I'm asking for the game to be made more difficult for everyone and the existing nerfs to classes like Bard to remain in place. It's fine though, enjoy your care bear server with almost guaranteed channeling from level 1. I believe it was 50-70% success rate channeling on P99 at level 1 but classic data showed you should be around level 40-45 to have that level of success. Fitting with what I always said, Enchanter on P99 plays like a top geared top level Velious era Enchanter from level 1 in classic era. People use evidence from Velious era to try to speak to how Enchanter worked in classic or Kunark. Most of the "custom classic" players here who defend this situation are incapable of nuance like evolving power level of classes over time through expansions or simple game design mechanics like the leveling curve that would have never been allowed by Verant/Sony.

We got quest exp nerfs, higher spawn rates, instanced server on green launch and not fixes for basic mechanics like channeling rate. It's clear the staff for whatever reason WANTS everyone to group up at max level and poop sock raid mobs. They not only don't fix obvious classic bugs that would slow down all progression and avoid this stacking up at max level and alt collecting pre-Kunark but they actually introduce non-classic changes to make leveling even easier and faster. Makes zero sense and just isn't the game I want to play. EQ raiding up until Velious was always kind of a joke for the losers who had no life and reached max level before a new expansion could be released. I play EQ for the core game mechanics and social aspects. Both of these have been killed by the devs who introduce things like lists and are extremely harsh about any kind of camp competition, training, etc which turns P99 into a boring formulaic easy grind to raid level where you then sit AFK waiting for 1 person to win the raid mob pull and then you easily kill the mob and go to bed.

I do find it funny though that I savaged Enchanter so hard that people still pop up on forum whenever I post to cry about it and say none of it was true. You're lucky I got so demoralized by channeling rates and lack of staff response that I decided not to make a larger compilation of all the evidence and issues that I was seeing in the news groups and similar.

[Baler]

azxten is a liar

[Dolalin]

He's right about the Channeling thing, but it mostly affects low levels (sub 30) and the staff defo haven't ignored it, it just needs coder time, which is always in short supply.