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Old 08-25-2021, 12:57 PM
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6/16/2017 Removed all ToV, Tormax, and Statue rules.

9/04/2020 New specific rules for Statue/AOW & King Tormax

Kael: King Tormax & Statue (natural spawn only)
Run up from WL side where snow/dirt starts (old run up spot)
Sow max speed ( no crown of rile shadow step etc)
dmf/levitate required
First 8 hours of window: announce in shout then race after 3 minutes
Last 8 hours of window: run on spawn

Statue/AOW concessions linked
Max runners would be tied to AOW as well (can’t team up for AOW if your combined runners were more than 4)
Need to pull with your FTE


06-14-21 update:
Removed max runners for Kael/Dain
You are really dense, nowhere within "New specific rules for Statue/AOW & King Tormax" is Dain mentioned as you have been repeatedly told.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:21 PM
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To be fair to samoht dain is mentioned, at the very end, 3 years after the post he tries to cite as proof that there's some kind of rule against lull pulling (there isn't). To be fair to you he is a really dense moron.

What he's asking everyone in this thread to do is focus on 1 sentence and remove all context with which it was posted and ignore the thread it was posted in. That's not how language works and that's not how reading works. Context is king and in this case samoht is a lowly court jester.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:30 PM
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Two response from two different idiots. One refuses to read the page they copy/pasted, and the other acknowledges that it does include dain specific rules, but still will not concede that the thread includes dain specific rules.

This is why nobody can get along with Riot. They're full of this kind of rules lawyer who are absolutely wrong in their rules lawyering, but they refuse to even acknowledge that they might be wrong.

These people clearly cannot be reasoned with. They are a blight to the server and need to be removed from the raid scene.
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:06 PM
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Samoht, in his wormtongued argument believes that the removal of one rule "06-14-21 update: Removed max runners for Kael/Dain" applies.

And Samoht argues that the removal of rules " 6/16/2017 Removed all ToV, Tormax, and Statue rules." does not apply.

This is two-faced, and part of Trainquish's MO.
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:09 PM
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Wait, so does the thread include dain rules or not?

Because your entire argument was that it did not.

Are you acknowledging your argument was a farse?
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:12 PM
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Two response from two different idiots. One refuses to read the page they copy/pasted, and the other acknowledges that it does include dain specific rules, but still will not concede that the thread includes dain specific rules.

This is why nobody can get along with Riot. They're full of this kind of rules lawyer who are absolutely wrong in their rules lawyering, but they refuse to even acknowledge that they might be wrong.

These people clearly cannot be reasoned with. They are a blight to the server and need to be removed from the raid scene.
All the lawyering in this thread is from you. You're taking a single sentence and asking everyone to ignore all context of where it was posted and when it was posted and everything posted afterwards. Again, that's not how reading works. Nothing Sirken posted includes anything about Dain. The only mention of Dain is from Galach 3 years later and only in the context of removing max racers.

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These people clearly cannot be reasoned with. They are a blight to the server and need to be removed from the raid scene.
You're correct there, you just have the wrong guild. Still waiting for Galach to impose the rightly earned "PERMA BAN" to furoar for 2 boxing while he trained Riot with one of their own bots. Unless there's some sort of double standard and 2 boxing is fine if you donate to the server a lot.
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:48 PM
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Couple more pages of feverish posting and I'm positive one of you is going to convince the other that you were right and they were wrong.
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Old 08-25-2021, 03:00 PM
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Old 08-25-2021, 03:21 PM
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All the lawyering in this thread is from you. You're taking a single sentence and asking everyone to ignore all context of where it was posted and when it was posted and everything posted afterwards. Again, that's not how reading works. Nothing Sirken posted includes anything about Dain. The only mention of Dain is from Galach 3 years later and only in the context of removing max racers.
Your entire argument was predicated that the post regarding racer FTEs could not possibly apply to dain because the thread did not name dain in the title. Yet other at least one other post in the thread clearly named dain in the list of targets.

Now that we know that the thread did in fact include dain specific rules, the ruling can be applied to dain, and both the title of the thread and your argument so far are confirmed to be irrelevant.

So what you have established so far:

1) Sirken's footrace FTE ruling that forbids use of lull can apply to dain
2) Riot broke this rule on 4/17
3) Riot has not utilized this tactic since then in passive acknowledgement that it is in fact against the rules.

Let's move on now to other documented instances of rules Riot has clearly broken:

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1. Directly interfere with another guilds engage but dispelling a slowable mob in an attempt to wipe them not once, but twice (Zlandicar and Statue. Cant remember who dispelled Statue but, still in Riot).

2. Directly train another guilds attempt on Trakanon with an eyeball in hopes of not getting caught but getting caught anyways. (Herpaderp Yankovich doesnt know how mechanics work after years on the server and leading a "raiding" guild. Still in Riot).

3. Intentionally cast Celerity on Vanquishes members who where going out to SoW for kiting guards on a Vulak engage in hopes of them getting smoked for thinking they had SoW but instead had Celerity (Aagent, still in Riot).

4. Intentionally try to disrupt CH Chains in hopes of causing a wipe. This has happened many times with nearly no response from Riot other than "Oh well". (Tekka, still in Riot)
I'd also like to add the two occasions so far that I've personally witnessed a KRIOT engage of Lord Vyemm go sideways, and they've left the dragon untanked for longer than the allotted duration in order to allow it to regenerate so that it prevents an easy Vanquish engage.

Any objections to these as they are laid out? I'm sure that you've got something imaginative to senselessly defend your guild on these indefensible situations.

If one thing is clear, though, it's obvious that Riot is not any more noble than their opponents on this server.

There's nothing shadier than a bunch of shady mother fuckers pretending they're not shady.
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Old 08-25-2021, 03:37 PM
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I want to fit in so I'd like to declare that I'm also EXTREMELY upset that a rival elf league hasn't interpreted the mystical beast slaying rules appendix volume xvii the same way as me, which could theoretically lead to me getting least magical treasure.
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