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Old 09-29-2021, 11:42 AM
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So it would be x2 DPS each round of attacks?
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Old 09-29-2021, 12:20 PM
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So it would be x2 DPS each round of attacks?
100% Haste means you take the delay of the weapon and divide by two. So a Wurmslayer (25/40) at 100% Haste would become a 25/20.

I just want to make this distinction clear, because I am not 100% sure how you are thinking about "x2 DPS".

Let us look at a quick scenario:

Shadowknight A is equipped with a Wurmslayer and buffed to 100% Haste

Shadowknight B is equipped with a Wurmslayer and has 0% Haste.

In this specific scenario, Shadowknight A would swing twice as often as Shadowknight B.
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Old 09-29-2021, 03:20 PM
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Level Max total haste permitted
1-30 50%
31-50 74%
51-54 84%
55-59 94%
60 100%
This is the best info to take away from this thread
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I think I can top that. Mathematically, trying to get more than 50% haste isn't a very good use of your time/money anyway. Let's take a look at probably the best high delay weapon out there players will equip, Tantor's Tusk (50/60).

At 50% Haste, your delay is reduced to 40, which is already 66.67% of the possible delay reduction you can get. At 75% Haste, your delay becomes 34, so you have only gained an additional 6 delay for 25% Haste.

Haste has diminishing returns, and it only gets worse with faster delay weapons. So realistically trying to get a super high haste value isn't a great use of your time/money anyway, unless you really want to parse as high as humanly possible. To cut Wurmslayer's delay by 10 (half of the possible reduction), you only need 34% Haste, which a Seahorse Belt would cover completely. 31% would get you to 30.5, but I think it would round up to 31 at that point.
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Old 09-29-2021, 04:27 PM
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I think I can top that. Mathematically, trying to get more than 50% haste isn't a very good use of your time/money anyway. Let's take a look at probably the best high delay weapon out there players will equip, Tantor's Tusk (50/60).

At 50% Haste, your delay is reduced to 40, which is already 66.67% of the possible delay reduction you can get. At 75% Haste, your delay becomes 34, so you have only gained an additional 6 delay for 25% Haste.

Haste has diminishing returns, and it only gets worse with faster delay weapons. So realistically trying to get a super high haste value isn't a great use of your time/money anyway, unless you really want to parse as high as humanly possible. To cut Wurmslayer's delay by 10 (half of the possible reduction), you only need 34% Haste, which a Seahorse Belt would cover completely. 31% would get you to 30.5, but I think it would round up to 31 at that point.
If you are twinking tho, yeli head was fairly cheap when I raided I don’t see it being that expensive now and lvl 5 usable. Never have to worry about haste on ya alt again. For monks grey suade shoes the same, dirt nothing and lvl 1 obtainable. Actually for a raider grey suade shoes maybe easier then the 30k to get a belt.
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Old 09-29-2021, 04:32 PM
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If you are twinking tho, yeli head was fairly cheap when I raided I don’t see it being that expensive now and lvl 5 usable. Never have to worry about haste on ya alt again. For monks grey suade shoes the same, dirt nothing and lvl 1 obtainable. Actually for a raider grey suade shoes maybe easier then the 30k to get a belt.
Oh I agree. If you can obtain a nice haste raid item, that is the way to go. My SK is using https://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_the_Dar_Brood because it was like 30DKP lol (like 5-10 raid mobs in Aftermath). Way easier/faster than grinding 30k.

But for everyone who isn't in an active raiding guild, Seahorse Belt is the way to go for your 34% Haste. Good stats for a belt item, 0 weight, and useable by all races/classes. Cheaper than Cloak of Flames or Cloak of Crystalline Waters too.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:41 AM
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Cocw and Lodi belt is where it’s at. I don’t bother with cof.
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:05 AM
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yeah COCW is an amazing item
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:39 AM
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if you're putting in enough EQ time to care about 2% haste differences, you may as well raid just long enough to get a 41% haste item
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:44 AM
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if you're putting in enough EQ time to care about 2% haste differences, you may as well raid just long enough to get a 41% haste item
That’s silly. I can get the pp for a 36% in < 1% of the raid time to get 41%
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