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Old 08-04-2021, 04:53 PM
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But seriously, the fundamental thing that will always make TakP unclassic is the boxing. If you played on live from '99-'01 you probably didn't know anyone at all who boxed. Maybe you happened to know one rich person who already had two computers sitting side by side, and could afford two phone lines and two EQ accounts ... but the vast vast majority didn't.

The only people really boxing back then were those who played in computer gaming centers, schools, or other places where a bunch of computers with Internet connections were already in the same place ... and even then it wasn't one guy with multiple accounts so much as friends using each other's accounts.

P99 doesn't emulate that perfectly: instead of live's maybe 0.5%-1% of players boxing, we have (ostensibly) 0% ... but it will always be a million times more classic than TakP's "everyone is playing three accounts at once" system.
My dad had two accounts/computers to box from on live from 1999 on. He also played constantly, at least 4-5 hours a day for years....


His druid was level 58, probably lower than that during velious. He didn't get a max level toon until Luclin. People played EQ Socially a lot more back then. Half the time he was playing, he was doing shit like, helping his gf farm a screaming mace for her alt.... or helping a guildy. When he leveled, he'd like .. duo with his gf in burning wood who was also a druid. They would kill like 10 mobs an hour. And just chat while medding.

I remember one night very clearly, my dad was like 1 blue away from getting level 51 and becoming a wanderer for the first time. But was exhausted and went to bed. So I jumped on his computer and leveled his druid the rest of the way. (I was scared as fuck tbh because if I died he would have wigged out - rez's were super hard to come by back in the day) and in the 2 hours it took to get the rest of his level, multiple people in zone(like 4 separate people I had never seen) also camping 10 wasps an hour came by and talked to him as if they had spent hours talking on previous nights.

That's a big reason why I don't think raiding is fucked up on this server. On live, only the most hardcore and dedicated even got to max level, let alone raiding. On live, your entire 3 hour play session could be just going from one zone to another.
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:00 PM
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:00 PM
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Well admittedly it's hard to know exactly. A) everyone has different experiences, B) a lot of people (both those that remember boxing and those that don't) have memories from after the classic period which bleed into the classic period, C) our population here is probably not representative of live (we probably have a greater percentage of "hard core" players) ... and so on.

But whether it was my estimate (0.5%-1%) or slightly higher one (not sure what y'all would estimate based on your experience: 2%? 3%?), I think we can all agree that:

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I do agree that it was nothing like TAKP where the vast majority seems to triple box just because they can.
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:03 PM
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My dad had two accounts/computers to box from on live from 1999 on. He also played constantly, at least 4-5 hours a day for years....


His druid was level 58, probably lower than that during velious. He didn't get a max level toon until Luclin. People played EQ Socially a lot more back then. Half the time he was playing, he was doing shit like, helping his gf farm a screaming mace for her alt.... or helping a guildy. When he leveled, he'd like .. duo with his gf in burning wood who was also a druid. They would kill like 10 mobs an hour. And just chat while medding.

I remember one night very clearly, my dad was like 1 blue away from getting level 51 and becoming a wanderer for the first time. But was exhausted and went to bed. So I jumped on his computer and leveled his druid the rest of the way. (I was scared as fuck tbh because if I died he would have wigged out - rez's were super hard to come by back in the day) and in the 2 hours it took to get the rest of his level, multiple people in zone(like 4 separate people I had never seen) also camping 10 wasps an hour came by and talked to him as if they had spent hours talking on previous nights.

That's a big reason why I don't think raiding is fucked up on this server. On live, only the most hardcore and dedicated even got to max level, let alone raiding. On live, your entire 3 hour play session could be just going from one zone to another.


There is a lot of truth to this. I remember playing for probably a month and a half before I hit lvl 10. Ppl just played differently back then. I didn't just focus on leveling I was exploring a whole world and meeting new friends and going on adventures. Now it's almost become mechanical in process. The min/max mentality has found its way into everything in some ways. Even those who might not care as much about it still find ways to he efficient with their time vs just logging in to adventure.
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:16 PM
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But whether it was my estimate (0.5%-1%) or slightly higher one (not sure what y'all would estimate based on your experience: 2%? 3%?), I think we can all agree that:
nah i dont agree to shit you said about boxing
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:17 PM
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loramin posts the n-word and then says ya'll, some confederate shit is brewin round here
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:10 PM
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loramin posts the n-word and then says ya'll, some confederate shit is brewin round here
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:21 PM
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Before Luclin existed, very few were boxing at all. It wasn't even called boxing back then, but "hydraing", at least on my server. Or "playing two characters at the same time".

I didn't play any games from 2002 to 2014 (too busy with 10s in lap etc).

I don't think I ever heard "boxing" in another context than punching each other in a ring, before finding P99 in 2014.
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:34 PM
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p99:
pixel sickness
unemployment
addiction
desperation
forum post histories with the same 3 comments recycled 15000 times

takp:
objectively classic
most players have a 401k AND a roth
rogean actually talks to the community because they aren't a bunch of shitheels
raid rotations so you can go on your tinder date and then get your tormax helm after you get dome
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:51 PM
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i dont have a chip on my shouklder, i have a log in my pants
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