Game Mechanics: Mage Pet Spells

[Splorf22]

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[p-niner]

Bump.

Can someone check if pet level matters? Lvl 4 lvl 30 lvl 49 then 55-60? Maybe of just 1 pet type like air or eath. From my experience on red the low level and high levels are like machine guns and the mid ranges are lackluster. Could be resists, just my recollection.

[baalzy]

Bumping to add this gem:
http://webpages.charter.net/metaphore/spell.html

Note: The page seems to be setup for a redirect. You have to stop it loading manually or else you get redirected to a placeholder page.

Here it what it looked like in the wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/200101290...ore/spell.html
It's a tongue in cheek website written from the elementals point of view (IE: The player is the mages pet) but it contains the stats/information for the actual mage summon spells
Things of note:
Fire Pet Description:

Fire Elemental Aura

Self only Flame Shield does damage of level of pet +1 (not sure if that's the case on p99)

increases fire resists +5

Fire Elemental Attack (Levels 4-49)

Spell name:Unknown

Damage: 2 damage (level 1) up to 61 (level 60)

Resistance Check: Fire

Targets: All

Duration : Instant DD

Recast Delay: 6 seconds

Fire Elemental Attack 2 (Levels 50+(Dyzils Defening Decoy))

Spell name[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]yzils Defening Decoy

Damage: 2 dmg (level 1) up to 61 (level 60)

Targets: All

Resistance Check: Fire

Spell Duration: Instant DD + Taunt

Recast Delay: 6 seconds

Area of Effect range: 35 feet

+50 Fire Elementals become Wizard like and cast spells such as:

Shock of Lightning, Force Shock, Flame Shock, Fire Elemental Aura is replaced with O"keils Radiation, and Shieldskin and Gate.

Earth Pet Description

Earth Elemental Attack (Levels 4-49)

Spell name: Root

Resistance Check: Magic

Targets: All

Duration : 3 ticks

Recast Delay: 6 seconds

Earth Elemental Strike (Levels 50+)

Spell name: Root

Damage: 11 dmg (level 1) up to 70 (level 60)

Targets: All

Resistance Check: Magic

Spell Duration: 3 ticks

Recast Delay: 6 seconds

Air Pet Description:

Air Elemental Attack (Levels 4-49)

Spell name: Elemental Stun

Damage: none

Resistance Check: Magic

Targets: All

Duration : 3 seconds (level 1) up to 5 seconds (level 33)

Recast Delay: 12 seconds

Air Elemental Strike (Levels 50+)

Spell name: Elemental Stun

Damage: 11 dmg (level 1) up to 70 (level 60)

Targets: All

Resistance Check: Magic

Spell Duration: Instant DD + Stun 3 seconds (level 1) up to 6 seconds (level 42)

Recast Delay: 12 seconds

Air Elemental Invisibility

Self only invisible that is permentent untill melee or casting stun.

Water Pet Description:

Water Elemental Attack (Levels 4-49)

Spell name: Unknown

Damage: 2 dmg (lvl 1) up to 61 (level 60)

Resistance Check: Cold

Targets: All

Duration : Instant DD

Recast Delay: 6 seconds

Water Elemental Strike (Levels 50+)

Spell name: Unknown

Damage: 22 dmg (level 1) up to 140 (level 60)

Targets: All

Resistance Check: Cold

Spell Duration: Instant DD

Recast Delay: 6 seconds

50+ Water Elementals have the ability to Backstab like rogues

Edit:

In the parses by Treats, is it possible that some of the longer delays (such as the air-pet that waited 30 seconds) were caused by the pet being stunned due to a bash and it caused it to miss casting for that round and had to wait until the timer recycled + the random variance?

Edit2:
Question- Do mage pets currently work off a 'proc' system instead of a 'cast' system? That could be the problem, they're relying on proc code instead of caster AI which would likely cast a spell in short order after it came off cooldown.

[baalzy]

Any love planned for the mage pets?

or

Does more research need to be done? I'm happy to look for more, but if enough has been shown then I don't really wanna spend the time doing it.

[Bazia]

I would assume Treats logs are pretty conclusive

[diplo]

bump? mage's always being nerfed...would be nice to get a + patch for us.

[Sundawg]

Originally Posted by diplo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bump? mage's always being nerfed...would be nice to get a + patch for us.

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Anyways, on the subject of mage pet spells, what classic era mages can support/backup the following:

Originally Posted by Sundawg

This concerns the level 52 mage spell Vocaration:Fire and the level 58 mage spell Greater Vocaration: Fire

The following spells should be added to them:

Level 16 wizard spell: Shielding (buff, always puts up when not in combat)

Level 12 wizard spell: Cancel Magic (uncommon cast)

Level 20 wizard spell: Instill (common cast)

Level 20 wizard spell: Tishan's Clash (common cast)

Thanks

Edit:

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fire Elemental Aura is replaced with O"keils Radiation

This went in a few patches ago.

[Asap]

For Vocarate: Fire

This pet does infact give other pets in the same group Okeils Radiation buff. Was at a Seafury group and this pet buffed my Nec pet quite a few times. Pretty amusing.

I can also report that this pet casts dispell on mobs. I only have seen it once, as I've not used this pet much yet, and I'm also not sure if the pet had a reason to dispell (dog in kc), but I can confirm the casting of dispell.

I have used the 52 fire pet, it casts a combo of 5 different spells, 3 DD's (Lightning, force shock, and a fire based one) It also casts steel skin on it self (when not in a fight) and a damage sheild. I am not happy with the damage sheild it casts, it casts O'Keils Radiation, which is only a 2 dmg fire sheild. It's melee is about 30 dmg max.

Yes, this pet is lousy for soloing, and could be defeated 1-1 with almost any other 44 or 49 pet, but that's not where you should use this new amazing pet. The 52 fire pet is GREAT in groups. In general, it won't get hit on much in groups so the low HP's don't matter. And while it melee's for low amounts, it casts 200+ DD spells at a rapid click. Hard to tell resist rate, but I've been using this pet in KC for a few days now, and it's been an AWESOME group member. Like having an extra wizzie in the group. The stuns also help alot against casting MOBs. Even in melee, it can keep a MOB busy on a multiple pull while the group fights a second one (if you don't have a chanter handy, or you just get too many to handle). The damage shield is lousy, but it's rarely in melee anyway, so who cares.

http://web.archive.org/web/200203050...ell.asp?Id=338 Jan 2001

[Asap]

Regarding earth pets casting time

earth elementals are the worst pets, all they do is waist there time rooting, its useless, until it gets fixed, stick with air or fire. the more hp dosent make up for the fact that the pet in a 2min fight will only do about 30dam cause the rest of the time it just sits and roots over and over again
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hmmmm, earth pet root has about a 6 second recycle, maybe more

More evidence indicating pets are not casting enough

http://web.archive.org/web/200112230...ell.asp?Id=227 Jan 2001

This earth pet keeps things glued, about the same as a cleric casting enstill on something constantly.

http://web.archive.org/web/200106111...ell.asp?Id=262

[smish44]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recently bought a Magician

I thought this was a no account trading/ no RMT server?