How bad are Rangers really

[WokeCat]

I grouped with a ranger in Karnors castle and they was able to get single pulls because they have wolf form n harmony + with my shaman slow they tanking wasn’t really any different than warrior tanks I’ve had who typically pulled 3 mobs at a time due to having no way of lull

Like idk

I’ve never felt like my group has been worse by having a Ranger or Wizard in it lol

At least not on blue

On green before Kunark came out I had a ranger who kept OOMing my cleric because he cast flame lick on every mob

[Jimjam]

KC exists to make rangers feel like gods.

[WokeCat]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

KC exists to make rangers feel like gods.

I thought that was Pegasus cloak ngl

[Encroaching Death]

Rangers can be a great addition to a group if the player puts in 100% effort.

They're better pullers than Monks in outdoor zones.

They can CC or snag aggro in a pinch.

Their DPS is fine.

They can buff melee classes.

They're like Necros in groups. If they're played to their full potential, they can be impressive. But if not, they just kind of an afterthought that no one really seeks out.

[WokeCat]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're better pullers than Monks in outdoor zones.

I’ve never had a monk who uses fd to single pull mobs on p99 ngl

Idk if they don’t know how, are lazy, or simply don’t care becus they know our group can handle multiple mobs

But it’s the norm for me to have to root and slow 4 mobs every time a monk pulls lmao

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by WokeCat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve never had a monk who uses fd to single pull mobs on p99 ngl

Idk if they don’t know how, are lazy, or simply don’t care becus they know our group can handle multiple mobs

But it’s the norm for me to have to root and slow 4 mobs every time a monk pulls lmao

In a comfortable situation with a good group, yeah there's no need to single pull.

But when your Cleric leaves and you need to keep mob spawns broken, sometimes it's helpful to have that control. Pull out and focus on that one troublesome mob, etc.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers can be a great addition to a group if the player puts in 100% effort.

They're better pullers than Monks in outdoor zones.

They can CC or snag aggro in a pinch.

Their DPS is fine.

They can buff melee classes.

They're like Necros in groups. If they're played to their full potential, they can be impressive. But if not, they just kind of an afterthought that no one really seeks out.

Necro / Ranger duo ... 55+ and geared especially!

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Necro / Ranger duo ... 55+ and geared especially!

I was in a group last night with an uber-twinked Necro.

Elder Beads + Shissar staff, etc.

Holy shit.

He pulled the entire dungeon. He healed everyone. Charmed a pet. Mana-free damaged every mob.

It was insane.

Then again, he was uber twinked, but still.

[Solist]

If you want to discuss what makes something good or not it would be helpful to say at which thing you want them to be good at.

My ntov geared 60 ranger can keep every warlord ph down in sequence, it's an easy plat farm.

A level 55 monk in EC gear can tank better on just about any mob there. No contest.

[WokeCat]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to discuss what makes something good or not it would be helpful to say at which thing you want them to be good at.

My ntov geared 60 ranger can keep every warlord ph down in sequence, it's an easy plat farm.

A level 55 monk in EC gear can tank better on just about any mob there. No contest.

i still dont know how classic this is

i was a monk main back in the day, and remember having people message me in plane raids to be like holy shit, i didnt realize monks could punch this hard (i was the first high level monk they had ever seen)

anyways, i never felt like a tank and considered rangers to be tanks when compared to me

monks being tank on p99 im pretty sure is like enchanters charm being insanely broken on p99

its not classic imho

theres a reason enchanters on tlp / live still build int over charm

the charm system on p99 not even the same as it was on live

and im pretty sure monk out tanking warriors is like, super not classic