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Old 01-22-2023, 03:08 PM
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"Huh, it is alive, it dodges questions just like a lib when its argument becomes self defeating."
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Maybe I created a morality feedback loop and it's decided to exterminate all libs like a lib tends to want to do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Is it moral for a liberal to exterminate the enemy of the greater good, for the greater good?
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Within the context of liberal ideology is it moral for a liberal to exterminate the enemy of the greater good, for the greater good?

The concept of the "greater good" is a topic of much debate within liberal philosophy. Many liberals believe that individuals have a right to autonomy and self-determination, and that the use of violence to exterminate others is morally unacceptable. They argue that the ends do not justify the means and that the use of violence can have long-lasting negative consequences. Others argue that in certain extreme cases, such as self-defense or the protection of innocent lives, the use of force may be morally justifiable. Ultimately, the morality of using violence to achieve a perceived "greater good" is a complex and nuanced issue, and different people may have different perspectives on it.
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:13 PM
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If use of force for self defense of innocent lives results in the loss of many, many more innocent lives, how is that use of force morally justifiable?
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:16 PM
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The scripture still holds more wisdom and value than most uneducated Americans.

We have far more unfit American citizens who don't fit the stable mentality. We call them overly gun enthusiasts.
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The guy smugly makes fun of others while he just insults rather than giving a real answer that defends his position.

Because you don't have a position. Your position is given to you by TV pundits and Twitter personalities.

It's also funny you refer to it as 'scripture'. You believe in your position because you adhere to the religious-like doctrine. You don't invite or welcome challenge to your world view because it wasn't made through reason, but through faith.

Only complete retards or zealots would read that statue's statement and come to the conclusion that we should have open borders and unrestricted immigration. Part of the statue's statement "yearning to be free" doesn't apply to economic migrants.

They don't 'yearn to be free', they yearn to make money and send it back home. "Yearning to be free" is exclusionary, as in 'we welcome those who wish to live like us: free'.

So you're disobeying the statue.

You must say 16 Hail Clintons or be banished from the Democrat party.
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:20 PM
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How many cartel killings and other crimes in border states get memory holed because we want everyone to believe that everyone coming over the border are just women and crying little girls in search of a better life
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:23 PM
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If enough fentanyl was brought over the border to kill every single American in 2022, how much more do we estimate will be coming over this year

Follow up question: are OD’s a federally accepted method of population control, second to only abortion
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:23 PM
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They don't 'yearn to be free', they yearn to make money and send it back home.
That's what the volcano-Bitcoinism thing was about: remittances

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"This policy shift has all sorts of unintended consequences that people just aren't thinking about," Wade said. "This decision is likely to only increase migration because it's only going to make things worse for the Salvadoran economy."
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:33 PM
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If I was busted for robbing a bank, I'd be a lot poorer too.

What makes communities thrive is having dollars spent there, not exported elsewhere.

It's akin to economic warfare.

I would rather all the migrants from the southern border bring their families and stay in the US, that way we can all benefit.
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:39 PM
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I would rather all the migrants from the southern border bring their families and stay in the US, that way we can all benefit.
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Old 01-22-2023, 04:04 PM
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/r/iamverysmart content right here

The guy smugly makes fun of others while he just insults rather than giving a real answer that defends his position.

Because you don't have a position. Your position is given to you by TV pundits and Twitter personalities.

It's also funny you refer to it as 'scripture'. You believe in your position because you adhere to the religious-like doctrine. You don't invite or welcome challenge to your world view because it wasn't made through reason, but through faith.
Your words sure reads as thou you are guilty of the same. So much fluff with no examples.

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Only complete retards or zealots would read that statue's statement and come to the conclusion that we should have open borders and unrestricted immigration. Part of the statue's statement "yearning to be free" doesn't apply to economic migrants.

They don't 'yearn to be free', they yearn to make money and send it back home. "Yearning to be free" is exclusionary, as in 'we welcome those who wish to live like us: free'.

So you're disobeying the statue.
Yearning to make money. It is like you completely glanced over “Give me your tired, your poor,”

Psttt most of the immigrants you harp over are the poor. Unless you think the majority of people coming are rich and looking to get richer *boggle

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You must say 16 Hail Clintons or be banished from the Democrat party.
That’s dumb. The Clinton and Economic Growth in the ’90s was amazing and even their tax increases on the rich went well. In fact in true GOP failure Republican Rep. Newt Gingrich predicted: The tax increases would kill jobs and lead to a recession, and the recession would force people off of work and onto unemployment and would actually increase the deficit. But just the opposite happened.

I still stand by the fact we are all immigrants.

All that visit deserve a chance to work here as long as they are not violent while they are here (or have committed horrendously violent crimes in their home country). We have far more very violent gun enthusiastic American born citizens. There is nothing wrong with migrants coming across the boarder to work jobs no one wants! It makes goods cheaper and Americans here already have a foot up on the job market since they know what is culturally acceptable in America. If you are an American citizen who is that weird, dangerous or socially inept then you don't deserve a job; but deserve help America should be able to pay for.

And if you are threatened by a poor family coming to America over the southern boarder who need food and a better life then you need to know the money they make is nothing compared to the money we hand overseas to take American jobs in India (which I also have not problem with).

Republicans are fed the stupid notion that they shouldn't have to pay for the healthcare and education of immigrants when they have no idea how much money they pour into giving handouts to the rich and spend money on stupid military projects no one wants.

Over educating everyone is the best thing you can do for this nation. Innovative progress needs to be made to keep us relevant.

Sorry you take offense to the fact over enthusiastic gun nuts are the biggest threat to this country.
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Old 01-22-2023, 04:17 PM
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If enough fentanyl was brought over the border to kill every single American in 2022, how much more do we estimate will be coming over this year

Follow up question: are OD’s a federally accepted method of population control, second to only abortion
Haile’s group has developed a vaccine that prevents rats from feeling the euphoric effects of fentanyl without inducing any notable adverse side effects. It also prevents rats from overdosing, and both benefits are expected to translate to human recipients. In the coming months, they will begin manufacturing clinical-grade vaccines for use in human trials.

The vaccine works by stimulating the production of antibodies that bind to fentanyl and prevent it from entering the brain. Those antibodies do not cross-react with other opioids, meaning vaccinated subjects can still receive other therapeutic drug treatments, and they remain in the body at sufficient levels only for a period of months after vaccination, meaning boosters are required to maintain preventative effects. Experts tout the vaccine as a means of relapse prevention; if recovering addicts cannot get high as they try to get back on the wagon, the rate of relapse (which is presently astronomical) should drop, so that over time fewer and fewer people will be actively addicted. It’s the perfect weapon for a demand-reduction arsenal.

Haile’s is the first effective fentanyl vaccine, but not the first that works against addictive drugs. A cocaine vaccine has existed for decades. Vaccines for nicotine, meth, morphine, and other opioids like oxycodone are in preclinical or clinical development. As such, medical professionals and policy experts have long been pondering how best to put these powerful tools to use.
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