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Old 07-07-2023, 02:46 PM
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Default Air & Earth pet parse in era (level 56 mage)

While old boards appear up across the archive.org I am gitty as a school girl. Found a parse result of level 56 mage comparing Air vs. Earth pet.

No idea how this compares to P99, but I know parse results seem rare, could compare average DPS/hit rate at least. Interesting stuff to sleuth through (6/4/2001 post), perhaps P99 mages can provide feedback:

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Hey all, I was running Vexxed last night (lvl 56 mage) in Seblis. I logged everything in that run and parsed it out today.
This research paper is broken down into two sections, the air pet Karab and the earth pet Garanab.
It is not a slam aginst any classes (though a rogues dmg output with ragebringer is sick!), but instead just a set of log files presented.
Read out of it what you will.
All this data was extracted through some PERL code that I wrote while at work today. If your a geek I hope you enjoy the results as much as I did.

################################################## #########
# Karab
################################################## #########
[Sun Jun 03 18:40:23 2001] Start time
[Sun Jun 03 19:55:11 2001] End Time

Karab was an air pet. Most of the log time I spent at the entrance to seblis just hitting various mobs that other players were fighting.
Karabs targets the following; a froglok dar knight, a froglok bok shaman, a froglok bok wizard, a froglok jin shaman, froglok jin wizard, a sebilite golem.
Karab had no str buffs, and was only hasted with burnout III.

# We start with the summary of Karabs hits.
Karab hit sucessfully for a total of 440 times.
Karab hit for a total of 18491 pts of damage.
Karab hit for an adverage of 42 pts of damage.
Karab missed a total of 306 times
Karabs attacks were dodged a total of 23 times.
Karabs attacks were parried a total of 9 times.
Karabs attacks were riposted a total of 2 times.
Karab attacked a total of 780 times.
Karab hit 56.4% of the time.
karab missed 39.2% of the time.
Karab was dodged 2.9% of the time.
Karab was parried 1.2% of the time.
Karab was reposted 0.3% of the time.
Karab cast 60 spells.
# I found the spell casting to be odd, as the spells seemed
# to cast on random basis. Sometimes there would be 16 seconds
# between casts, other times there would be 45 seconds.
# I am currently under the suspicion that the spells are a proc
# off the pet, and not a actual cast.

Karab bashed successfully for a total of 47 times.
Karab bashed for a total of 977 pts of damage.
Karab bashed for an adverage of 22.2 pts of damage.
Karab missed a total of 34 times.
Karab was parried once.
Karab was reposted once.
Karab bashed a total of 83 times.
Karab bashed 56.6% of the time.
Karab missed 40.9% of the time.
Karab was parried 1.25% of the time.
Karab was reposted 1.25% of the time.

Karab kicked successfully for a total of 15 times.
Karab kicked for a total of 333 pts of damage.
Karab kicked for an adverage of 22.2 pts of damage.
Karab missed a total of 21 times.
Karab kicked 41.6% of the time

################################################## #########
# Garanab
################################################## #########
[Sun Jun 03 20:09:38 2001] You begin casting Vocarate: Earth
[Sun Jun 03 22:21:40 2001] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...

Garanab was a 51st lvl earth pet. During the time I used my loving Garanab we needed a rooter, so I switched to the earth pet and then just casted malosi on the mobs to prevent runners.
This tactic worked wonderfully as we had no runners during this time.
Halfway through the evening, I gave Garanab a sword and a dagger. I did this to rest the amount of hits with each to judge how often his dual wield roll went off.
Garanabs targets the following; a froglok dar knight, a froglok bok shaman, a froglok bok wizard, a froglok jin shaman, froglok jin wizard, a sebilite golem.

################################################## #########
# Dmg totals

Garanab hit for a total of 419 times.
Garanab hit for a total of 16914 damage.
Garanab hit for an adverage of 40.4 pts of damage.

Garanab pierced for a total of 854 times.
Garanab pierced for a total of 35223 damage.
Garanab pierced for an adverage of 41.2 pts of damage.

Garanab slashed for a total of 485 times.
Garanab slashed for a total of 19393 damage.
Garanab slashed for an adverage of 40 pts of damage.

################################################## #########
# Hit percentages

Garanab hit,pierced,slashed a total of 1758 times.
Garanab missed a total of 1501 times.
Garanabs attacks were dodged a total of 99 times.
Garanabs attacks were parried a total of 84 times.
Garanabs attacks were riposted a total of 72 times.
Garanab attacked a total of 3514 times.
Garanab hit a total of 50 percent of the time.
Garanab missed a total of 42.7% of the time.
Garanab was dodged 2.8% of the time.
Garanab was parried a total of 2.4% of the time.
Garanab was riposted a total of 2.1% of the time.

Garanab kicked a total of 79 times.
Garanab kicked for a total of 1728 pts of damage.
Garanab kicked for an adverage of 21.8 pts of damage.
Garanab missed 86 kicks.
Garanabs kicks were dodged 7 times.
Garanabs kicks were parried 6 times.
Garanabs kicks were riposted 4 times.
Garanab kicked a total of 182 times.
Garanab kicked 43.4% of the time.
Garanab missed 47.2% of the time.
Garanabs kicks were countered 9.4% of the time.

Garanab bashed 206 times.
Garanab bashed for a total of 4576 pts of damage.
Garanab missed 156 bashes.
Garanab bashes were dodged 13 times.
Garanab bashes were parried 7 times.
Garanab bashes were riposted 12 times.
Garanab bashed a total of 394 times.
Garanab bashes 52.3% of the time.
Garanab missed 39.6% of the time.
Garanabs bashes were countered 8.1% of the time.

################################################## #########
# Dual Wield Rolls
# This is going to be very hard to guess. This is because without
# very careful parsing there is no easy way to cut out the double
# attack rolls as well. Assuming that the double attack rolls are the
# same percentage for each hand, it should not matter, but if the
# double attack roll for the 2nd hand is different than the primary hand
# then these results are not 100% accurate.
Garanab missed 439 slash attempts.
Garanab had 80 slashes countered.
Garanab attempted to slash a total of 1004 times.

Garanab missed 701 pierce attempts.
Garanab had 113 pierces countered.
Garanab attempted to pierce 1668 times.

Garanab rolled had 1668 attack rounds, and the dual wield rolled 1004 of those.
Garanabs dual wield rolled 60.2% of the time.

################################################## #########
# Garanab's spells.
# Again, as with the air pet, there does not seem to be any
# set random time between these casts, but instead lend more
# to a proc'ing effect. In a combat, they would cast roughtly
# between 6 and 12 seconds.

Garanab cast a total of 414 root spells during that time.

################################################## #########
# Damage Shields

During this time I kept Boon of Immolation on my party. I had to cast it a total of 19 times. This cost me a total of 6840 mana.
A total of 488 burned messages appeared on my screen. This is unusually low because we had a very good shaman slowing things for us.
This was a total of 12200 points of damage done to the mobs.
As you can see the ratio of damage to mana is pathetic this time.
This is because the mobs were only hit by the damage shield before they were slowed. After they were slowed they were chain sunned by the cleric, and chewed apart by the 2 rogues and warrior in our group.

In summary dmg shields are not adviseable in this kind of a situation. Save them for when you do not have a slower. The amount of damage they did before the mobs was slowed is quite remarkable.
[Sun Jun 03 21:36:54 2001] Sebilite guardian was burned.
[Sun Jun 03 21:38:27 2001] Sebilite guardian was burned.
In this 93 second time before the mob was slowed it ate 23 dmg shield hits for 575 pts of damage.

################################################## #########
# Speed Tests
# During this test I wanted to see if Celerity would help Garanab at all, or if burnout III would be a better buff.

# Test with Celerity
[Sun Jun 03 20:20:37 2001] Garanab begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Jun 03 20:21:34 2001] Garanab says 'Sorry Master..calming down.'

The fight lasted 57 seconds.
During this time frame there was a froglok krup shaman that appeared.
Garanab cast 14 roots during this test.
Garanab hit 106 times during this test.
Garanab kicked 2 times during the test.
Garanab bashed 16 times during the test.
Thats 18 total special attacks (kick, bash) attempts made.

# Test with only Burnout III
[Sun Jun 03 21:22:59 2001] Garanab tries to pierce froglok krup shaman, but misses!
[Sun Jun 03 21:24:11 2001] Garanab says 'Sorry Master..calming down.'

This fight lasted 72 seconds, so I only took the first 57 seconds of the fight.
Garanab cast 11 times during this test.
Garanab hit 101 times during this test.
Garanab kicked 5 times during the test.
Garanab bashed 12 times during the test.
Thats 17 total special attacks (kick, bash) attempts made.

# In summary there is a difference, but its highly marginal, and
# is not conclusive that Celerity is an advantage on a pet.
# From this test I would say that Celerity does not give a pet
# any advantage over burnout III

################################################## #########
# Total Damage

Vexxed cast Char 5 times for a total 3500 damage.
Vexxed cast Malosi 54 times, no damage but useful effect.
Vexxed did 12200 points of damage with damage shields.
Garanab did 71530 points of damage.

Vexxed did 87230 points of damage on that seblis run.

################################################## #########
# Damage Compairson
# Daiken, 52 DE warrior. Daiken was using a lammentation and something else.
# Temerity, 53 DE rogue, Temerity was using ragebringer.
# Nabal, (unknown lvl) DE rogue, Nabal was using usual weapons.

Daiken slashed for a total of 72467 points of damage.
Daiken kicked for a total of 1895 points of damage.
Daiken added 74362 pts of damage to the seblis trip.

Temerity slashed for a total of 23030 points of damage.
Temerity pierced for a total of 78548 points of damage.
Temerity backstabed for a total of 40856 points of damage.
Temerity did a total of 142434 points of damage.

Nabal pierced for a total of 68023 points of damage.
Nabal backstabed for a total of 13150 points of damage.
Nabal did a total of 81173 points of damage.

This does not take into account the proc'ing effects of weapons.

# In summary, I think that ragebringer are just sick for
# damage output, but with an epic pet, I think the mage would
# be comparable in damage ouput.
# This is because where Garanab cast 414 root spells, the epic
# pet would have DD'd for 82800 points of damage. The epic pet
# also hits for the 60s on adverage instead of the 40s.
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Old 07-07-2023, 03:20 PM
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It's beautiful isn't it.

Nice find.

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It's beautiful isn't it.

Nice find.

I'll be scraping every EQ EZBoard and putting it into my archive / search engine in the next few days.
yes indeed. Not sure if they normally work but see the old EQ message boards seem to function real well now, like 95% of the threads open
http://web.archive.org/web/200106091...&startpoint=80
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################################################## #########
# Garanab's spells.
# Again, as with the air pet, there does not seem to be any
# set random time between these casts, but instead lend more
# to a proc'ing effect. In a combat, they would cast roughtly
# between 6 and 12 seconds.
I don't have logs handy to check right now, but don't we currently have 12-24 seconds on our earth pet root, instead of this 6-12 seconds?
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Old 07-07-2023, 04:56 PM
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In my haste forgot to post the original link, it is the old ubb boards on allakhazams that are running (not super great, seems <50% reliable to find threads working)
https://web.archive.org/web/20010711...ML/008410.html
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I don't have logs handy to check right now, but don't we currently have 12-24 seconds on our earth pet root, instead of this 6-12 seconds?
I believe Telin addressed this previously saying he has done all he can and it is a known issue. Perhaps there is some form of EQemu or client limitation preventing a proc from happening that fast? Would guess it is in Rogean's court
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FYI for anyone using my search engine... I have scraped all the major class and server boards on a first run. It's 1 million files, indexing now, might take a few days and search.eqarchives.org will be slow until it's done.

There are another 800ish guild sites that I am downloading off Wayback (I grepped my whole archive for ezboard board links, heh). When those are done downloading I'll commit them and index them too.
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@Rygarr, do you have a link to the source of your parse in the OP?
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@Rygarr, do you have a link to the source of your parse in the OP?
Yup, posted earlier in this thread a few posts down.

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Another:

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