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Old 03-19-2022, 04:27 PM
sajbert sajbert is offline
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Default Cleric race?

Fashion and roleplay-purposes aside I feel like there are only four meaningful race/diety combos.

Halfling
+ Sneak and Hide
- Terrible cha

Innoruuk Human
+ Snare and fear clickies
+ All-round faction
+ Can wear robe
+ Good stata with second highest sta

Dwarf
+ Good stats for raiding
+ Barrel roll

Gnome
+ Wallhack
+ Can wear robe

Personally I don’t care abour raid minmax and I wanna be able to lull/pacify.

But how important is sneak, maybe I could get away with a Halfling if I were to max cha? When are fear and snare clickies really used? Halflings can sort of wallhack too, in fact most races can. Faction doesn’t matter much when you can sneak.

Halfling > All? Or should I go hooman!?
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:53 PM
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Halfling, because it only takes 95% of the time to get to level 60.
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:59 PM
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First fix your list since you don't care bout raiding or fashion

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Halfling
+ Sneak and Hide
+ exp bonus
- bad cha

Innoruuk Human
+ Snare and fear clickies
+ Good all around stats

Dwarf
- Bad cha

Gnome
- Bad stats in general
- Bad cha
if you care about cha there is no good reson to start low cha race.
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Old 03-19-2022, 05:01 PM
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What about Mith Marr Human? Severely underrated imho...

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Old 03-19-2022, 05:16 PM
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Each cleric race has a valid case, it just depends on what you want out of your cleric. If being able to pacify well is the most important thing to you, then high elf and human tend to make the most sense. Each race can get shrunk if you want wallvision. Sneak is unique to halflings, but you have to ask yourself if you need it/would use it. Personally, I don't understand why anyone would ever play a dwarf, but I don't think barrel roll is cool and I think their fashion is terrible. Human inny and halfling are my top 2, but I think gnome is an underrated choice, erudites look badass, and elf clerics are solid all-around.
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Old 03-19-2022, 06:23 PM
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Dark elf for ultravision!
Wouldn’t they get all the clickys the humans could get?

Hidden bonus you can see in the dark during your corpse runs!
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Old 03-20-2022, 01:46 AM
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What about Mith Marr Human? Severely underrated imho...

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If you aren’t so much in to raiding but are into dumping lots of time and pp into tradeskilling then MM is a decent choice.
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Old 03-20-2022, 02:17 AM
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Sneak is unique to halflings, but you have to ask yourself if you need it/would use it.
Sneak is one of those things that if you know how to use it, you can abuse the hell out of it. Turning in quests while KOS, using any vendor in the game, sneaking by raid mobs. Paci + sneak can get you into (or out of) some interesting situations.
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Old 03-20-2022, 11:17 AM
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Dark elf for ultravision!
Wouldn’t they get all the clickys the humans could get?

Hidden bonus you can see in the dark during your corpse runs!
Bad str, barely better cha than Halflings. Nightvision is accessible for Clerics on higher level gear such as the PoM helmet. Halflings already have passable nightvision too and Human Innoruuk clerics can get a clicky helm for better vision (requires a faction grind though).

And no, Dark Elves don't get the Paineel clickies that Innoruuk humans can. Nor do they have the same allround decent faction.
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Old 03-20-2022, 12:17 PM
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Sneak is one of those things that if you know how to use it, you can abuse the hell out of it. Turning in quests while KOS, using any vendor in the game, sneaking by raid mobs. Paci + sneak can get you into (or out of) some interesting situations.
Does 360’ sneak after invis still work?
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